perhaps we aren't using warrior properly?

[Ryker77]

I disagree on the healing issue. I find that the Warrior over the paladin gives me much more time to react to incoming damage and get a heal off. I believe people perceive the paladin as easier to heal as they have a smaller HP pool and thus their heals appear to be healing for more. I have healed both a warrior and a paladin on HM titan and Coil and if I had to choose I would say the warrior was the easier of the two to keep alive. My main issues for the two tanks is not their ability to survive and hold agro but on their utility. The paladin currently shines the most due to his ability to interrupt abilities when needed, all by himself, while the warrior requires a bard, monk, dragoon, smn to assist in interrupting the spells while his ability is on cooldown. IF the warrior stun would have its cooldown removed and brought on line with the paladin stun I think we would see a lot less of the war is not as good threads.

[Ryker77]

On the topic with Storm’s end heal. I concur that this skill needs a little tweaking. It would be nice if the attack did either a flat % of your total HP (such as 5%) healing or would ignore the -25% damage reduction from Defiance. Personally I would prefer to see it heal for a % of total HP in order to see it scale better with gear.

[Artamie]

By additional I really think they were trying to make a point in the scholar quest line. Why would you emphasize the importance of the synergy between scholar and warrior so much if there wasn't something in it? From what I've seen so far the job/class quests do try to point you in the right direction in how you play a certain class/job so I doubt the scholar quest line is an exception.

[astrobear]

By additional I really think they were trying to make a point in the scholar quest line. Why would you emphasize the importance of the synergy between scholar and warrior so much if there wasn't something in it? From what I've seen so far the job/class quests do try to point you in the right direction in how you play a certain class/job so I doubt the scholar quest line is an exception.

Actually this is a good point.....perhaps scholars healers (which btw are the least used healer in the game for some reason) are simply more suited for war tanks
. After all most endgame combo is see is pld and whm. So maybe the issue has more to do with the type of healer that is group with the war tank?

[reality_check]

I haven't done any binding coil; however, I have done everything up to that including beating Titan HM.

I have a Scholar and a White Mage both of whom I use regularly for healing. I do purely maintank healing on my scholar and I have to say I MUCH MUCH prefer to heal a warrior than to heal a paladin on my scholar.

This Warrior complaining really boggles my mind to be honest. I think it's from all these theorycrafters who don't really know what they're talking about.

I lustrate three times every 45ish seconds on my Scholar. The sheer difference in HP from the warrior compared to paladin makes healing that much easier when your best main tank heal is based on the tanks max health %.

[Soulburn32]

I have a Scholar and a White Mage both of whom I use regularly for healing. I do purely maintank healing on my scholar and I have to say I MUCH MUCH prefer to heal a warrior than to heal a paladin on my scholar.
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I lustrate three times every 45ish seconds on my Scholar. The sheer difference in HP from the warrior compared to paladin makes healing that much easier when your best main tank heal is based on the tanks max health %.

i think there is your answer right there. healers don't know how to correctly heal warriors.
why cast a cure I for example when stoneskin will stop 1.3k damage based on a warrior having 7.5k health
lustrate 3 times every 45 seconds is 1.5k every 45 seconds

Stone skin is a 5 second turn around to recast every time. So maybe healers need to adapt to warrior play not the other way around

[Viscara]

i think there is your answer right there. healers don't know how to correctly heal warriors.
why cast a cure I for example when stoneskin will stop 1.3k damage based on a warrior having 7.5k health
lustrate 3 times every 45 seconds is 1.5k every 45 seconds

Stone skin is a 5 second turn around to recast every time. So maybe healers need to adapt to warrior play not the other way around

Because my Cure hits for 1000 on a warrior, has a shorter cast time, and costs half as much mana? WHM already has mana issues*, suggesting constantly casting SS is ridiculously uninformed.

*Not implying its broken, it's part of the class's mechanics.

[Hanabira]

i could definitely live with being able to stun more often. that would be great. over time against certain things, warrior is a better tank, but i think against large spike damage, like 4.5k table flips, pld has the upper hand being able to reduce that without requiring virus

[AjoraOak]

I tend to agree with the playerbase, they did a horrible job with tanks in 1.0 at first as well. (the 1.0 version of job tanks that is)

[Hanabira]

Bring back healing steel cyclone that would be awesome.. but really all i would ask is for is foresight to be a damage reduction or something. I dont ever see a noticeable difference even though its adding about 200 def. Or it could hold true to its name and automatically parry a couple of attacks. and for storm's path to heal something reasonable, or remove it from the 3 stage combo.