advice needed. MP shortage

[Laume]

I just did garuda recently (storyline version) and the first castrum DF fight for the main storyline. I've noticed that if I'm healing a pld, I have no problems. But when I'm healing a war/mrd, I find that I run out of mp usually around 1/2 to 1/4 of the main mob's life. I've been stacking mnd gear hoping that more hp healed per cure would offset the the mp cost but I'm either doing it wrong or that isn't working out. Any have any good advice?

[SzaaKarna]

my philosophy is to keep regen and stoneskin up on the tank and dps and you shouldnt need to use too many cures- pop shroud of saints whenever you can - when you do need to cast cure, make sure you use the lowest tier that will do the job - preferably 1 so you can take advantage of free cure - dont medica unless absolutely essential

[Bigpurpleharness]

I just did garuda recently (storyline version) and the first castrum DF fight for the main storyline. I've noticed that if I'm healing a pld, I have no problems. But when I'm healing a war/mrd, I find that I run out of mp usually around 1/2 to 1/4 of the main mob's life. I've been stacking mnd gear hoping that more hp healed per cure would offset the the mp cost but I'm either doing it wrong or that isn't working out. Any have any good advice?

Use regen. If a tank bitches, inform them to they can click it off if it's still up when they go to pull. If they still bitch, tell them to stop sucking so it's so necessary. A good tank has no regen issues anyway.

Of course, with your issue, without seeing your gear and how you play, as well as the tank's, we can't see what the problem is.

I will say this, WHM has more MP issues than SCH, and WARs are worse tanks than PLD on the eHP side of things, even including healing.

[Laume]

Sorry, I should have mentioned that I almost always keep regen on the tank (and other melee's when I have the free time). Stoneskin I don't usually have a chance to cast during battle. It seems like it comes off almost immediately when the tank gets hit by a boss-type mob. Not to mention the casting time is so long, a lot of times the tank will be near death (from full health) when I cast stoneskin.

[Purutzil]

My advice would be to utilize Shroud (MP regen effect if I recall) and to focus on mana efficinecy. Every time you over-heal, you are basically wasting mana away. Larger heals will take a lot more MP to achieve less of a result then say 2 heals of a lower level heal. Its all about balancing out your mana usage and limiting your large MP drains for emergencies and minimizing the over-healing you do.

[Creltis]

I'd also recommend leveling up Thm in order to get access to Swiftcast. Its very usefull for a 'oh shit I need my largest cure now without a cast time' moment. Or when idiot dps stands in the fire and we need to quickly get them back up.

[Jarlax]

I don't have issues, stoneskins mp cost= cure II mp cost. Cure II heals 1k health on avg stoneskin is a 20% rune on target so if target has less than 5k health its a waste. Regen tank and melee dps taking melee ae damage or anyone not taking constant damage and let them regenerate. Cure1 and regen on tank use divine seal during spike damage NOT bigger large MP cost heals

[Splice]

Fix log settings so you can see dmg taken by tank only next time you run with a war and watch if they get hit by spike dmg that should be avoided. Its probably not you so much as the tank being bad. Also as others have said be smart with your MP and take advantage of free cast C2 and Crit C3's. You can wait till war is almost dead and C3 with divine seal for an incredibly efficient cure.

I find with WAR tanks whm is put to max use, since they have such a large HP pool you can really hold off on the heavy MP cures and time them with abilities to get the most out of your MP.

[JonFarron]

Shroud of Saints+Regen. Use it. You can get 250+ HP per tick. Just use that, cast it on the tank and whoever else seems to take damage a lot (usually melee), and you have a few seconds to wait for your mp to come back up a bit, tossing Cure 1 when needed. Also, keep Stoneskin up on yourself when you have a free moment. I've survived so many hits that would've otherwise killed me just because I have Stoneskin on myself 75% of the time.


Shroud of Saints+Regen on party before you Raise someone is fantastic if you don't have Swiftcast yet. (My current Raise combo: Shroud of Saints->Regen on tank, Regen on DPS that takes most dmg, Regen on me(depending on situation) Presence of Mind->Surecast(if you have it)->Raise)

[Bigpurpleharness]

I don't have issues, stoneskins mp cost= cure II mp cost. Cure II heals 1k health on avg stoneskin is a 20% rune on target so if target has less than 5k health its a waste. Regen tank and melee dps taking melee ae damage or anyone not taking constant damage and let them regenerate. Cure1 and regen on tank use divine seal during spike damage NOT bigger large MP cost heals

18%, but yeah even then it's not efficient for use in battle unless it's to save a big hit when your MP is overflowing, you're right.