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  1. #11
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    Rael West
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaiken View Post
    They behave like this because they think they are Anonymous through the Internet and nothing will bad happen to them. There should be an option in the Lodestone where we can Comments on the Players or Rate them, so this behavior can be stop.

    They said they are implementing a Rating System in Dungeon Finder though, can't wait for that because I'm getting sick of all this disgusting behavior.
    I totally agree. Personally, I never understood why forum admins were so against naming players who acted like jerks. Why should their ID be protected when they douche up the game. If they are anonymous enough to act like a tool in game or on forums, they should be listed for everyone to see and hopefully this will straighten them up or force them to leave and take that behavior elsewhere.
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  2. #12
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    Karen Tonben
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    >Ragnarok Online
    >Mature Community
    Never played it myself, so i wouldn't know


    You are all, of course, correct in suggesting that premade groups are far less toxic. I still have to join a FC, so i'll put that on top of my to do list.
    Still, the duty finder has it's perks and i'd like to continue using it. I really enjoy having a group with players from all over the world, for example.

    A rating system could help, but i like Evumeimei, i remain skeptical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonben View Post
    He started playing Ragnarok Online again after 4 years, because the community there has already matured. I'm really hoping this will be true for FFXIV:ARR as well someday and hopefully it's not because the community is almost nonexistent.
    Pre-renewal RO community was amazing, nowadays it's just your everyday MMO community. I don't think FFXIV community will change unless a giant black hole rips the fabric of Eorzean space and time and swallows every single player who is not following classic MMO standards. Alas, it's just a mere dream but it helps understand how detrimental our community is.
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  4. #14
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    Mirabelle Goode
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2GO View Post
    I totally agree. Personally, I never understood why forum admins were so against naming players who acted like jerks. Why should their ID be protected when they douche up the game. If they are anonymous enough to act like a tool in game or on forums, they should be listed for everyone to see and hopefully this will straighten them up or force them to leave and take that behavior elsewhere.
    On one hand, I agree that it's distasteful that they don't need to bear the consequences of their actions, but I feel a kick functionality would more than resolve that. The public shaming of individuals hardly feels like an optimal solution to me. It seems very much like a strike-one-and-you're-out scheme, much like what has happened with people who have been hacked and then blacklisted and are unable to interact with their server because of it. I more than agree that such actions are utterly juvenile, but should you be branded a sinner forever because of a mistake you might make only once?
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    Yeah ... thats what happens when they give western players free reign to do what ever the hell they want with no consequence. Makes you realize just how shitty most of humanity still is.

    Why developers dont THINK to add some real tools to the game to ignore and seclude these players from the rest of the community is beyond me. Its like they prefer letting them poison the community than lose their measly $15 a month. Still waiting to see the day when a p2p MMO dev makes it so I can blist entire accounts, not just individual characters, and youll never hear or group with them again.
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  6. #16
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    Asuka Kiyomi
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    i will agree there is some "toxic players" that could ruin the time for evryone i was in CM for a quick speedrun to kill some time and i saw a healer go down evryone moved on and he asked in chat "oh .. i guess i should just walk" he was about to quit until i told our other healer to cover the group and that i will ressurect the down'd healer some players will ignore someoen who is downed or someone who is new just for those facts :\ additionally when i watched the cutscenes i was glad i had 2 people from my FC with me becuse they all left me when i watched the cutscenes and my buds from my FC told me where to go to catch up
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    Hed Luminos
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    I can't WAIT to get to 50 and start running these dungeons. I do a static with a healer with me as tank. Those poor excuses for humans can go get bent for all I care. I'll get another DD to replace them and continue my dungeon while they sit in queue for another hour or so. I'll go afk on purpose! I'll watch the CS every time. Just to weed out stupid people like the OP mentioned. If you're going to act like that I don't want to help you get through any content anyway!

    AW to hell with it! I'll even post some of the chat screen SS so we can all have a good laugh. Names will be blocked but it'll still be worth a laugh.
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    Last edited by Hed; 09-27-2013 at 01:44 AM.

  8. #18
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    Gerulf Cloudwrath
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    I've only done about 10 duties as this point, and one from yesterday is the only one with a jerk, so it's been okay so far, but even 10% seems too high for me. He ran off one of our players, and I eventually left after apologizing to the healer and replacement, at which point I was the one being flamed.

    As much as a voting/kick system seems like it would be good, it would unfortunately be rife with abuse. Since League of Legends has been brought up, I think a Duty Finder Tribunal would be an interesting approach. It could punish by denying the use of Duty Finder for a certain period, meaning they'd have to form their own parties.
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  9. #19
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    Most people now a days like to think gamers are modernized. What I mean is that the average gamer still plays 6 hours a day or more. Lets put it this way if you spend that much time on something every single day your going to get pissed all the time over things. I think this idea that most gamers now have full time jobs kids etc do other things blah blah okay. Um how do you survive if your don't have a job for one? Having kids you can be a stay at home parent and play all the time once your kids are 3 or so they can play by them selves and you can play games all day etc. People need to go back to the wow nerd in his moms basement rage quitting all the time example, and realize people are still nerd raging 24/7 and freaking out over a game.

    Its part of the experience.

    Edit the idea that having a job and kids makes you a more mature gamer is well I liked to see the statistics on that. I've played many COD matches and have had the guy swearing up a storm at his teammates while hearing kids in the back ground.

    Don't get me started on Halo 2 the first real FPS with standard voice communication.
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    Last edited by DiceMan; 09-27-2013 at 02:03 AM.

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    Gerulf Cloudwrath
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiceMan View Post
    Its part of the experience.
    That doesn't mean it should be accepted. It's a problem, and even though it might not ever be truly solved, we should always continue to attempt it. Honestly, I think that if people are going to act like children, they should be treated as such: take away their game. I've seen people on the LoL forums genuinely seeking advice on how to improve their behavior, and that's great—I applaud them for it—but that never would have happened without the Tribunal, which bans accounts for repeated offenses. Most of us know how, and are willing to participate in a community in a civilized manner, but justice systems exist for a reason, and without something resembling that in multiplayer games, toxicity will thrive.
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