Toxic Player Behavior

[Tonben]

From the beginning, the social element made MMO's exiting for me. And now, even though the social media generation is on the rise I feel like the term Massively Multiplayer isn't accurate anymore.
Instead of trying to achieve a common goal by cooperating with other players, these days it seems like you tolerate them to conveniently get there faster.

By the time I hit 50, I've ran a few dungeons. I couldn't wait to try Bahamut's Coil, so I've run Castrum more than 40 times for a full Dark Light Set.

If something went wrong, and it didn't matter what, someone quit, followed by everyone else.

Someone pulls a trash group that was easily avoidable?
„What a newb, we could have saved a minute there. Why is there no kick function?“

Someone wants to enjoy the awesome cutscenes?
„???? you, you can watch them later !“

Someone has to go afk for five minutes?
„Report him, that guy is a troll !“

The last reply is something I've heard a lot lately and for those of you who are unaware, it's something commonly said in another game, League of Legend.

Now League of Legend is known for it's toxic player base. And they have a system that allows players to report unfair behavior, like being AFK for too long. There seem to be many players that think the customer service is now obligated to ban players who go afk while in a party.

Please people, chill!
First, let's be realistic, the customer service has better things to do.
Second, stop being annoyed every time. If you're always getting upset playing a video game, you're doing it wrong.

Yes, by the time you're running Castrum for the 37th time it's getting hard not to be annoyed. But please believe me, if you introduce yourself at the start, explain / argue things in a polite manner, not only will your mood change, but you'll likely finish faster as well (and I'm only talking about the duty finder, not premade groups). Yes the guy that's afk will still be afk but more likely to return.

I know someone who actually loved the gameplay, graphics and everything, but left. He started playing Ragnarok Online again after 4 years, because the community there has already matured. I'm really hoping this will be true for FFXIV:ARR as well someday and hopefully it's not because the community is almost nonexistent.

Please comment, criticize or flame me, I'd really like to know what you think about the player base and it's problems.

[Azostar]

I think this has been explained in other posts, the fact that dungeon finder allows your to group up and never meet someone again means players can afford to be toxic, however grouping with players in your own server or free company will give you another point of view. Try finding a group on your server or join an FC, just like league of legends, toxicity comes from randomers.

[Zaiken]

They behave like this because they think they are Anonymous through the Internet and nothing will bad happen to them. There should be an option in the Lodestone where we can Comments on the Players or Rate them, so this behavior can be stop.

They said they are implementing a Rating System in Dungeon Finder though, can't wait for that because I'm getting sick of all this disgusting behavior.

[Nukocafe]

I know someone who actually loved the gameplay, graphics and everything, but left. He started playing Ragnarok Online again after 4 years, because the community there has already matured.

>Ragnarok Online
>Mature Community



While I do agree with you that there's a lot of toxic players sadly unless SE actually decides to do anything about it, it will continue. They said they have no intentions to implement party kick, and it seems like they're too busy with RMT spam bans to ban someone being a jerk in game. Best thing to do as everyone will tell you, make friends, or just cross your fingers and hope you don't end up with jerks in DF.

[Evumeimei]

But that rating system could backfire. I mean, couldn't trolls just start giving everyone bad ratings? Or what happens if you have a bad day in a dungeon and mess up and everyone in the party rates you badly for it? That'd kind of suck...

[Azostar]

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While I do agree with you that there's a lot of toxic players sadly unless SE actually decides to do anything about it, it will continue.
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I actually think that the community will change once free month/first month subs start going off, the people who act like this are the ones who don't really care about the game, they'll move on and forget about it.

[Seig345]

It's an unfortunate glance at the true nature of people who would otherwise not act this way if they knew they'd be held responsible. It's the actions that someone takes when they don't think they're being watched that speak loudest about what kind of person they are.

[Azostar]

Also, youtubers like the Yogscast are doing videos on this game, expect an influx of bad players between the ages of 8 and 15.

[stardrifter]

This is always hit and miss, last night I used the DF to do Easy mode Garuda. It took me 3 different groups before defeating her and numerous tries with each group. Nobody was toxic, even though we were wiping most the time people were willing to discuss what we needed to do and eventually ended up downing her.

I'd say if everyone is open to playing and doing things differently maybe a better playing environment will open up, If someone wants to take the lead and tell people what to do let them, if it doesn't work out let another player try his or her method. Everyone needs to be open minded though. Of course there seems there will always be the really big jerks.

[Viscara]

Gotta say I have never seen any of this a single time in any of the 60+ AK/CM runs I have ever done because I party with people from my server (via /sh or in my FC). If you're grouping with people from your community you'll find that they tend to be a bit more respectful because their reputation may actually become known otherwise.

This seems to be a completely different situation if you group via DF, but I avoid DF like the plague for anything end-game related and hated it even while leveling.