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    Naunet's Avatar
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demlix View Post
    Considering you most likely compromised your account in some way by downloading a bot or buying gil, I will not be unblacklisting people even if they're not really the ones spamming RMT. With the free software version of the one-time password for iOS and Android, there is no excuse for getting your account hacked.
    Not everyone has a smartphone, just so you know.
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Some 30,000 accounts were stolen on launch day of GW2. Over there, the Devs discovered how it happened within days. It came to light that about a month or so before launch, one of the fansites with a forum was hacked, and had its database stolen.

    Everyone who used the same username or email and password on that fansite as they did for the game - got hacked on launch day... By the end of the first weekend, that was about 30,000. You can be sure the hackers didn't take them all right away though - and the problem persisted for a few months.

    They put in tokens, forced password changes, and so on - and only after all of that did things recover.

    There are a LOT more fansites for FFXIV than for that other game. Partly because these forums are capped at so few posts, the fansites are still popular.


    I've seen a few posts in this thread already from people who say "I don't click on weird stuff, I don't download weird stuff, my password is complex, I have anti-virus, and I don't have a keylogger."
    - All of that means nothing.

    The only safeguards are to use a unique account name, unique email, and unique password - AND get a security token, either the physical one, or the smartphone one.

    The hackers don't hack you... they hack weak points on the internet. forums, fansites... maybe facebook (no idea and it'd never admit it if true), and so on. Anytime they get access to a new database, they use bots to try out the accounts all over the net - and then I supposed report back where it worked. That then gets stored away for later.

    If its too many passwords to remember, write them down on paper and store it all somewhere safe in the house. If people break into your home and get that - your MMO game account will be the least of your worries.
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    Ya, really didn't think about this, but you are definitely right. As the hacked accounts get returned to their rightful owners, it becomes important to actually unblock them.
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    No, sorry. If you are dumb enough to get "hacked" you aren't worth my time.

    I will never get "hacked" because I am not a retard. Strong passwords, not using the same one multiple places, and not going to questionable websites, works well for me.
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    My point is that someone that takes all the security precautions possible is astronomically less likely to get hacked. And if you get hacked because you didn't you have no one to blame but yourself.

    I'm aware certain exploits can be found, but Windows User Access Control will prevent a ton of that too. Also ExecuteDisable bit in the bios being set prevents buffer overflow attacks in the kernel address space, meaning it will blue screen before it let's it work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    My point is that someone that takes all the security precautions possible is astronomically less likely to get hacked. And if you get hacked because you didn't you have no one to blame but yourself.

    I'm aware certain exploits can be found, but Windows User Access Control will prevent a ton of that too. Also ExecuteDisable bit in the bios being set prevents buffer overflow attacks in the kernel address space, meaning it will blue screen before it let's it work.
    My counterpoint is simply that you shouldn't be blanket assuming that someone is at fault for being hacked, nor claiming there is no excuse for not being prepared.

    Most people who use the internet are only peripherally (if at all!) aware of what is involved in internet security. Not being prepared for something you don't understand is hardly something you should blanket insulted for, as seems to be the case whenever this topic comes up. For example, bios settings? You really expect someone to know how to change their bios just by virtue of being online and playing a game? That is flabbergasting to me. The truth is few people who use computers, be it for video games or the internet, or anything else, know anything about that level of computer security. It is just a machine to them. It works, or it doesn't. When it doesn't, they get someone to help them out, or they go online to try and find a solution. If they find out, it is usually after the fact, rarely before.

    I know far to many people who are ignorant of the internet, yet use it on a daily basis, to be comfortable with this kind of blanket assumption of fault. It is too close to the "you only have yourself to blame for walking down that street", especially when you have never been told by anyone that (or why) you shouldn't.
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    I'm antisocial and dislike people, despite playing an MMO. You can bet your sweet bippy my blacklist is going to stay full. And when the world is empty and desolate, echoes of joy long forgotten amidst debris and destruction... only then will I gleefully jump into puddles without fear of judgment from the sapients of Eorzea.

    Come to think of it, I might feel charitable and clear one person off of my blacklist today just to see how quickly I add them again.
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    Know this, ye who relentlessly jump over my table... All of the glasses spilt, all of the hats tipped, thy soul shall be recompense for the atrocities ye have committed against mine intended leisure after long hours of defending Eorzea. When the Void opens and all that stands between thou and agonizing, fiery damnation are my ilk, ye shall know despair as we step aside.

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    Hed Luminos
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    In all my years of gaming online, chatting, emailing or social networking I have only been hacked once! That was due to my friend yelling out the password which was a phrase that we both used in game around hundreds of users. The person who hijacked them then went through his friend list looking for alternate characters of his using the same password. I changed it and he learned not to be so ignorant and it's never happened again. I seriously don't understand how people get hacked. It doesn't take much to make something up that isn't easy to guess. I have to agree with others. It's either because they went to a gold buying or power leveling site and got jacked at the front door. OR they created and account using the same password that they use for the game. Either way it's your bad and don't be too surprised if people don't respond to you once you get your account back.
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    Blacklist only has 200 spaces I already used 150, eventually I will have to clear some out to make room for new rmt spam I don't want to see.
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    Khalus Akuhei
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    If it hasn't been said yet, what if I put you on there for a reason and forgot why ~ gil seller or not!

    You just want everyone to remove you from their blacklists...lawl
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