Re-rolling from Warrior, thoughts?

[Azostar]

So I've spent the last few weeks leveling a Warrior, I work and don't have much time to play so forgive me for taking so long, but it was really disappointing to find out that warriors aren't even taken for late game dungeons.

Don't jump to any conclusions about my toon, it's still not fully geared yet, so I don't really have first hand experience on the matter, but just by sitting around in revenants toll and reading forums I can get an overview of how things are happening at the moment. Warriors are not getting taken for groups because of the damage mitigation that paladins get, I've heard WARs are getting stomped in coil even with full DL gear. In chat channels all I see is free companys recruiting two paladin tanks for their end game groups, and WARs flooding chats looking for Titan HM's, I don't even think i've seen a PLD say looking for group once. Healer's are even complaining that warriors are simply not as easy to manage healing with compared to paladins.

I just feel like sinking more time into a character that won't even be picked up for end game content is worthless, I don't have as much time to sink into the game as I did when I wasn't working, so I need to make the time I put in count, i've already lost quite a lot of it. I'm also a big end game player, so being denied that because nobody had any knowledge of the end game meta at release kinda sucks, it seems like there is no way I could ever get into or start a semi-hardcore free company because my class is universally worse than a paladin tank (i've heard good things about warrior speed runs to be fair).

So on that basis i've decided to come to the forums and ask opinions from the general player base, do i re roll my class or stick it out? If I were to re roll my class I would also like to know if it would be faster making a new character for the quests or sticking with the character I have now. Also any suggestions on what class I should create?

tl;dr: Re-rolling, what class should I make? What's most sought after?

[neizero]

Pld are way easier to heal and they have better cd's. Just suck it up and play pld for now until they fix war. You can MT titan as war just fine btw, but in coil you are really making life dificult for the group.

[Trife]

Pld are way easier to heal and they have better cd's. Just suck it up and play pld for now until they fix war. You can MT titan as war just fine btw, but in coil you are really making life dificult for the group.

This attitude is everything that's wrong with this community...

"It's too hard with WAR pout, pout. So sad it's not even funny. I don't get this mentality with gamers nowadays that, if it isn't easy, it's not worth their time.

I'm sure it's very possible with WAR, just takes a different strategy or maybe more thinking, (I know, I know, booo to thinking!).

[Furious]

This attitude is everything that's wrong with this community...

"It's too hard with WAR pout, pout. So sad it's not even funny. I don't get this mentality with gamers nowadays that, if it isn't easy, it's not worth their time.

I'm sure it's very possible with WAR, just takes a different strategy or maybe more thinking, (I know, I know, booo to thinking!).

Asinine. This is like calling a tennis player lazy for using a full size graphite racket rather than a half-size wooden racket. It isn't lazy to use the best tool for the job; it's intelligent. You ascertain the best tool for the job, then you apply it appropriately. There is no circumstance in which WAR is the best tool for the job besides aoe damage. Yes, people can and are using WARs to a point, but it's not because they are the optimal (or even an equal) choice. It's because people leveled WAR and still want to play FFXIV.

[HealBus]

Asinine. This is like calling a tennis player lazy for using a full size graphite racket rather than a half-size wooden racket. It isn't lazy to use the best tool for the job; it's intelligent. You ascertain the best tool for the job, then you apply it appropriately. There is no circumstance in which WAR is the best tool for the job besides aoe damage. Yes, people can and are using WARs to a point, but it's not because they are the optimal (or even an equal) choice. It's because people leveled WAR and still want to play FFXIV.

There seems to be a great hostility to efficiency and mathematical optimization in this community. Sounds like the old men saying "in the good ol days" when confronting new ideas and technologies.

[Molly_Millions]

Lol. WAR kicks ass when played correctly. Don't believe the hype.

[Zumi]

PLD has way more damage mitigation and a lot more defensive cooldowns then war. PLDs have better utility a stun with no cooldown shield bash and a silence as well with spirits within. Silence is very important when fighting the ADS mobs in Coil.

Its just bad bringing a warrior to coil not only will they take more damage and be harder to heal, they won't be able to silence high voltage on any ADS type mob. Makes almost everything harder taking a warrior to anything SE needs to fix the class.

[Sylve]

PLD has way more damage mitigation and a lot more defensive cooldowns then war. PLDs have better utility a stun with no cooldown shield bash and a silence as well with spirits within. Silence is very important when fighting the ADS mobs in Coil.

Its just bad bringing a warrior to coil not only will they take more damage and be harder to heal, they won't be able to silence high voltage on any ADS type mob. Makes almost everything harder taking a warrior to anything SE needs to fix the class.

The Tank has to do everything, All the time, Because not a single other class in the game has the capability to Stun or Silence.

Oh Wait.
Monks have an AoE Silence, Warriors have a Stun, Lancers have a Stun and Bards (i believe) have a shot that silences.
Just off the top of my head.

Have you ever considered having your DPS pay attention?

[Furious]

The Tank has to do everything, All the time, Because not a single other class in the game has the capability to Stun or Silence.

Oh Wait.
Monks have an AoE Silence, Warriors have a Stun, Lancers have a Stun and Bards (i believe) have a shot that silences.
Just off the top of my head.

Have you ever considered having your DPS pay attention?

Who cares? The paladin has spammable stun available that doesn't require the dps to lose focus from DPS, as well as better survivability and mitigation in every way. Why involve three people in a chain of interrupts, potentially costing DPS and exponentially increasing points of error, when you can have your tank take less damage and coordinate only with himself for interrupts for most of the time? Monks are definitely amazing for silence on ADS, but it's not like your taking the paladin BECAUSE he has stun and only that; it's just another part of an already superior package.

[Sylve]

Who cares? The paladin has spammable stun available that doesn't require the dps to lose focus from DPS, as well as better survivability and mitigation in every way. Why involve three people in a chain of interrupts, potentially costing DPS and exponentially increasing points of error, when you can have your tank take less damage and coordinate only with himself for interrupts for most of the time?

Right. Because DPS is a very consuming task. Requires every ounce of brainpower in order to do it right. Cant possibly have your Monk switch Dragon Kick out for HotD and get AoE silences every 6 seconds with no DR with an off the GCD single target stun. Nope way too hard.