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    Instead of asking if they're on PC or PS, ask if they understand you at all.
    If they don't understand you on PS, what's to say they would understand you on PC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Instead of asking if they're on PC or PS, ask if they understand you at all.
    If they don't understand you on PS, what's to say they would understand you on PC?
    This is not pertinent given that you have the option of choosing which languages you're familiar with before you queue for a dungeon. If you can't follow instructions given in a particular language, don't queue with that language enabled.

    The problem is the combination of PC and PS not being able to communicate effectively (save for a few scenarios like the PS player having a keyboard or a computer with voice chat) and the inherent slow response given the nature of controllers - the latter of which is obviously not PS specific, but still a very apparent obstacle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phobia View Post
    This is not pertinent given that you have the option of choosing which languages you're familiar with before you queue for a dungeon. If you can't follow instructions given in a particular language, don't queue with that language enabled.

    The problem is the combination of PC and PS not being able to communicate effectively (save for a few scenarios like the PS player having a keyboard or a computer with voice chat) and the inherent slow response given the nature of controllers - the latter of which is obviously not PS specific, but still a very apparent obstacle.
    My comment had nothing to do with what language you or other players are queuing up as.
    If they are new to the instance, they may not understand what you're trying to explain, even if they speak the same language.

    That said, from Sastasha to Castrum Meridianum I myself haven't had any need to ask if anyone was on PS3. Maybe it's different at endgame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    My comment had nothing to do with what language you or other players are queuing up as.
    If they are new to the instance, they may not understand what you're trying to explain, even if they speak the same language.

    That said, from Sastasha to Castrum Meridianum I myself haven't had any need to ask if anyone was on PS3. Maybe it's different at endgame.
    I took "whether they understand you at all" as a reference to a possible language barrier; my apologies.

    You do bring up another valid point, though. Some, if not most, console players are not particularly familiar with how MMOs work as there aren't many around. I realized this after my first attempt at Sunken Temple last night when our two pugged DPS immediately ran into battle. Needless to say, the tank and I immediately left the party and suffered our 15 minute lock-out.

    I've had none of these issues with any of the dungeons up until the last boss of Brayflox's; that's where I first noticed a real gear/skill/communication check. I would hope that these types of problems can't exist in end-game as most intelligent party/raid leaders will boot you for repeatedly screwing up, and also require clear, concise communication with their players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phobia View Post
    This is not pertinent given that you have the option of choosing which languages you're familiar with before you queue for a dungeon. If you can't follow instructions given in a particular language, don't queue with that language enabled.

    The problem is the combination of PC and PS not being able to communicate effectively (save for a few scenarios like the PS player having a keyboard or a computer with voice chat) and the inherent slow response given the nature of controllers - the latter of which is obviously not PS specific, but still a very apparent obstacle.
    Most PS3 players are using keyboards, so you would never be able to tell them apart from PC players. You have obviously run into a few bad players and that's expected, but they probably won't be around for the long haul anyway. Good luck getting in a decent FC when you cant even communicate with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramzi View Post
    Most PS3 players are using keyboards, so you would never be able to tell them apart from PC players. You have obviously run into a few bad players and that's expected, but they probably won't be around for the long haul anyway. Good luck getting in a decent FC when you cant even communicate with them.
    I am compelled to disagree, based on the lack of empirical evidence coupled with my own personal experience over the last few weeks - unless of course you're right and people are simply too lazy to type, which is very possible :P
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