Job skill Befor you have the Job

[fxivexno]

I'm just saying... I feel that having (example) Flash befor Pld and songs befor you get the Bard job, Kinda takes alittle fun out of getting the new jobs? Its like yay! I can sing now I got bard... oh I could anyway >.< Just saying.

Thanks Brad

[rahvinus]

Except that there are dungeons prior to level 30 where a tank needs Flash. It's a Gladiator class skill, not a Paladin Job skill. Otherwise a pre-Paladin tank would have no way at all of taunting mobs.

[fxivexno]

it is now... (it wasn't befor ARR) They could of give glad shout then when you get pld it upgrades to flash, because flash wasn't a glad move. nvm anyways Idm.

[ruskie]

Yeah the swiftsong just doesn't make sense to me with archer. Maybe if there was some pre-story with the bard quest giver on that it would work better.

[Macka]

I'm just saying... I feel that having (example) Flash befor Pld and songs befor you get the Bard job, Kinda takes alittle fun out of getting the new jobs? Its like yay! I can sing now I got bard... oh I could anyway >.< Just saying.

Thanks Brad

To me it makes perfect sense those skills is what connects the Job to the class or is it the class to the job.

[fxivexno]

I always thought glad was its own class, and was hoping for another stone that would take it away from the pld but now its always going to have flash and always going to be a white magic class. Seem to me that its pointless having glad and pld, why not just have pld because that's what it is.

[MartaDemireux]

its always going to have flash and always going to be a white magic class.

Not necessarily. Arcanist has abilities, Summon and Summon II. Both of those abilities have different effects when you change your class. As ACN you get Emerald Carbuncle and Topaz Carbuncle, as SMN you get Garuda and Titan and as SCH you get Eos and Selene. Take a look at my sig and you can read my idea for DRK. I have it coming off of GLA but all +enmity skills GLA has will instead take HP away from the DRK to deal more damage, all shield- skills turn to blade- skills (shield bash->blade bash for stun) and I address your Flash concern by turning it into Darkness where instead of blinding it will deal aoe unaspected or umbral damage and instead of MP it will cost HP.