Dungeon Leechers are becoming a growing problem

[Kherza]

In the past week I have noticed an alarming increase in players who queue for CM runs and purposely go afk in an attempt to receive free tomes. Without some kind of system in place to punish this behavior or remove them from the party these players have nothing to fear from partaking in this sort of behavior. This is extremely unfair for players such as myself who play DPS classes and are forced to wait in long queues just to end up with this kind of game experience. We are forced to do the dungeon 1 person down and give the leecher free tomes or leave the dungeon and wait in another long queue.

I looked up this issue on Reddit and it seems that the general response by SE is along the lines of: "there is no rule governing how a player is supposed to play their role in a dungeon." However, I think this is a subtle case of intentionally causing grief to other players for an unfair advantage so it shouldn't fall under the protection of this clause. I feel a fix is really needed.

[CyrilLucifer]

Indeed, there's been a drastic increase recently. I went from never seeing one two weeks ago to having 3/5 runs today with leechers. Maybe just bad luck, but it's ridiculous.

[Jynx]

Using the Duty finder for high level content is becoming a growing problem as well.

I hate to sound like a broken record here but until there is a real socialy negative aspect to being a complete douche, people will continue to be. No ammount of "thumbs up points" will stop leechers from leeching, and morons from being morons, and outright rude people from being just that.

Give players a chance no matter how small it is for their rediculous actions to come back to bite them someday (Being blacklisted by people on your server to find they are very important social figures in the community). Just look at how well behaved most people are in the real world in social situations, the "Jerk" in real life in a minority instead of a swelling growth on the community due to the social implications of randomly lashing out at those around you.

[Kraggy]

Give players a chance no matter how small it is for their rediculous actions to come back to bite them someday (Being blacklisted by people on your server to find they are very important social figures in the community)

DF is a FAIL because it's cross-server, therefore the sanction of bad rep. on a server meaning you're highly likely to be avoided just doesn't apply. WOW showed this when Blizzard added CRZ, and already dire community spirit actually plummeted further downhill after that.

[Zakalwe]

DF is a FAIL because it's cross-server, therefore the sanction of bad rep. on a server meaning you're highly likely to be avoided just doesn't apply. WOW showed this when Blizzard added CRZ, and already dire community spirit actually plummeted further downhill after that.

This, exactly! All of these problems and the corrosive affect it is having on the game's community would pretty much sort themselves out if DF covered only your own world. Griefers would quickly find them largely blacklisted from group play as their reputations built and also find themselves locked out of all decent FCs.

Edit: similarly, it would make instituting a kick function easier to do, as abuses of kicks would also open a person up to the downside of developing negative rep.

[Panthan]

Only thing SE can do is giving us a vote kick system, beyone that there is hardly anything that can be done. This is something Cs watchers wont like, adding a kick immunity during cs can be abused by afkers.
Activity based doesnt work, its not hard spam a random button and easy to exploit, both ways.
Blacklisting on 3th party sites dont work, its too big a hassle to search through lists of names to see if someone is worth your time, not to mention easy to exploit, X won the loot Y wanted so X is now on the black list site.

[texhnolyze]

i guess i'm lucky, haven't met any yet
or perhaps it's because of my play time

[Dashuto]

Had our first purpose leecher the other night. Was a paladin with Relic +1 even. We scolded them and they eventually replied "You're the first to complain "

[Kherza]

Had our first purpose leecher the other night. Was a paladin with Relic +1 even. We scolded them and they eventually replied "You're the first to complain "

I've noticed that a large portion of these leechers are tanks. The one I dealt with tonight that caused me to make this thread was also a relic PLD. I'm not blaming tanks for having instant queues, that's just how it is and that's fine. But I've been noticing that a sizable handful of these leechers are tanks. If the group decides not to run and give them free tomes then it's no skin off their back. They just hop out and queue up again for another instant dungeon. As I mentioned, I'm willing to put forth the effort to get my tomes but I get punished by the leecher's behavior and have to wait in a 20-40min queue while they jump back in to a dungeon instantly without any sort of repercussion for their bad behavior.

[kalfis049]

Join a capable FC and do dungeons with your guildies. Problem solved.


But yes, there needs to be some changes. No reason not to have a kick system in place.