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  1. #11
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    Aska Vesaryn
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    There's more to a DoH than just crafting and selling on market board. You can easily make back the money spent on any DoH provided you know what to do.
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceill View Post
    There's more to a DoH than just crafting and selling on market board. You can easily make back the money spent on any DoH provided you know what to do.
    It's the reason I said if things remain the way they are, Armorer will be the gil class. Kite Shields have the highest vendor rate of sale. If nothing changed in ARR you could mass produce Kite Shields and vendor them. It's one of the highest rate of return gil faucets that cost nothing, doesn't have a time stamp and will create Gil out of thin air.
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Bard Lv 80
    my culinarian is only 25ish n my food sells super fast lol not sure cause i sell cheap tho :P since i gather everything myself n nvr buy mats lol
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  4. #14
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    Simaril Ratbane
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    It's the reason I said if things remain the way they are, Armorer will be the gil class. Kite Shields have the highest vendor rate of sale. If nothing changed in ARR you could mass produce Kite Shields and vendor them. It's one of the highest rate of return gil faucets that cost nothing, doesn't have a time stamp and will create Gil out of thin air.
    That's really hard to imagine. I'm using gamerescape, so the nnumbers might not be right...

    Kite Shield = 6 ice shards, 6 earth shards, 1 Iron Ingot, 1 cobalt plate, 3 cobalt rivets... NPC pays 553 gil, 609 for HQ
    Cobalt plate = 5 ice shards, 1 cobalt ingot.
    Cobalt ingot = 5 ice shards, 1 cobalt ore, 2 iron ore (4 needed)
    Cobalt rivets = 5 ice shards, 1 cobalt ingot (3 needed)
    Iron ingot = 1 ice shard 3 iron ore


    Totals: 41 ice shards, 6 earth shards, 4 cobalt ore, 11 iron ore... I can't imagine those materials costing less than 609gil
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  5. #15
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simaril View Post
    That's really hard to imagine. I'm using gamerescape, so the nnumbers might not be right...

    Kite Shield = 6 ice shards, 6 earth shards, 1 Iron Ingot, 1 cobalt plate, 3 cobalt rivets... NPC pays 553 gil, 609 for HQ
    Cobalt plate = 5 ice shards, 1 cobalt ingot.
    Cobalt ingot = 5 ice shards, 1 cobalt ore, 2 iron ore (4 needed)
    Cobalt rivets = 5 ice shards, 1 cobalt ingot (3 needed)
    Iron ingot = 1 ice shard 3 iron ore


    Totals: 41 ice shards, 6 earth shards, 4 cobalt ore, 11 iron ore... I can't imagine those materials costing less than 609gil
    I think you missed my point. The direction the game is going, you won't be able to sell anything unless it's to a vendor. True Faucets in video games don't require other players to trade you their gil for your stuff. They require gil to be created out of thin air. Right now one of the most lucrative faucets is Kite Shield.
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  6. #16
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    Laharl Gheist
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    Arcanist Lv 45
    Hopefully when level caps are raised SE has the sense to do like they did with XI and put a cap on which you can level over 50. It's the only sensible way I see of making crafts feasible by not having EVERYTHING on one account.

    There's good and bad to being able to be so flexible, we're seeing the bad.

    On topic: I made about 100k leveling my GSM to 25, granted I also leveled my Mining at the same time so I never bought crystals or ores.
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  7. #17
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    Bacon Narwhal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    I think you missed my point. The direction the game is going, you won't be able to sell anything unless it's to a vendor. True Faucets in video games don't require other players to trade you their gil for your stuff. They require gil to be created out of thin air. Right now one of the most lucrative faucets is Kite Shield.
    Assuming you gather everything yourself. 47 shards and 15 ores at 20 seconds per node will require 310 seconds. There are 10 item to be synthesized, at an average of 6 sec each for quick synth for NQ item, that's 60 seconds. A total of 370 seconds is needed for a Kite Shield. This comes out to be about 5381 gil per hour. That's a lot of work for very little return.
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  8. #18
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    Varin Athers
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    Botanist and Carpenter have made me so much money. Sell that lumber!
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    Canddi Kane
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    Quote Originally Posted by LahaGheist View Post
    Hopefully when level caps are raised SE has the sense to do like they did with XI and put a cap on which you can level over 50. It's the only sensible way I see of making crafts feasible by not having EVERYTHING on one account.
    I sure hope they follow the FFXI model because the markets are getting flooded. Hopefully they make it much more time consuming and way more expensive to level 50+ also.
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  10. #20
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BaconNarwhal View Post
    Assuming you gather everything yourself. 47 shards and 15 ores at 20 seconds per node will require 310 seconds. There are 10 item to be synthesized, at an average of 6 sec each for quick synth for NQ item, that's 60 seconds. A total of 370 seconds is needed for a Kite Shield. This comes out to be about 5381 gil per hour. That's a lot of work for very little return.
    I know. Don't you love how shards are 3:1 and take 75% of your game time to gather. It's almost like Alchemist was supposed to make them or something...
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