So end game huh

[Ikkenoe]

So what you're trying to say is, you don't consider serious endgame stuff like Coil to be serious unless you can DF it? You're saying because it largely requires organized groups of people to complete, rather than just a bunch of randoms thrown together, it's a joke? Am I interpreting this correctly?

Titan (hard) is the most difficult content in the game aside from Coil and it can be completed through DF, albeit rarely. Wouldn't actual endgame like Coil be more of a joke if all of it was so trivial that it could be completed through DF? Why does everything need to be available in DF just because you can't be bothered to find or organize a group on your own server? I think your personal preferences/bias have you seeing things backwards. Maybe instead you could admit that something like Coil simply isn't for you, and rather than trying to change it so that it IS for you... you could simply ask for more content that is?

Well, golly gee wiz, wouldn't you know it! More content right up your alley is coming in 2.1. Wild, right? And what little endgame content there is to do in the first FOUR WEEKS (seriously dude, four whole weeks) of the game's existence still outweighs what was available in just about any other MMO in recent memory within the same time frame.

FFXI had nothing for the better part of a year. GW2 had like one endgame dungeon and nothing else for the first 4-6 months (and hasn't really added any legitimate endgame since). SWTOR had virtually nothing for 6 months. Tera had dungeons to grind, but then what? WoW launched with MC and BWL, but they were the only real endgame content the game had until 8-9 months later... and it did pretty okay. XIV is getting its first huge patch before the end of the year, adding more endgame content (extreme primals, hard mode dungeons, crystal tower) plus more turns will be added to coil in 2.2 another few months after that.

I see this kind of thread all the time and every time I do I can't help but wonder if people can only remember things that happened five minutes ago.

[Kirea]

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I see this kind of thread all the time and every time I do I can't help but wonder if people can only remember things that happened five minutes ago.

the average gamer is like a goldfish >.> kekeke

but as it is even with all the people -beating- titan not very many are even in coils so i have to agree with ikkenoe