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  1. #1
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Making me take a 15 minute boat/airship ride won't make me socialize beyond my small circle of people I trust. Won't happen in my first MMO in 2000 and it certainly won't happen 13 years later.

    And it's people like the OP that are doing more harm to this community.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    Making me take a 15 minute boat/airship ride won't make me socialize beyond my small circle of people I trust. Won't happen in my first MMO in 2000 and it certainly won't happen 13 years later.

    And it's people like the OP that are doing more harm to this community.
    It doesn't matter if YOU personally don't socialize, the fact is there aren't enough situations to socialize in this game. Long boat rides, airship rides, waits, etc, give you an opportunity to socialize, which this game GREATLY lacks. They've taken out so many features that make us depend on others, talk to others, make friends, or just sit around chatting with randoms we see while doing boring waits to pass the time(which is how you make some great friends) just to make everything more "Accessible" and less time spent.

    Things like needing a WHM to port you, needing someone to come raise you, needing a BLM to warp2 you, needing people to open doors/gates for you, just tons of things you did everyday required you to interact with another human being. All of that was taken away to make the game more accessible, quick, easy, and soloable.

    Was it for the better? That's for you to decide, for my personally, though, I think it's for the worse and enjoyed making new friends all the time to adventure, level,chat, and play with.

    There just isn't enough situations in the game that give me an incentive or need to socialize to get something done, and that is a very bad thing in my opinion.
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    Last edited by Shiyo; 09-26-2013 at 09:03 AM.

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    Heal Bus
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Maybe it is my Starcraft background but I believe that rewards and etc should be based on skill and not time. Never knew where the obsession with grinding came from and even more puzzling is that people with more time attaches terms such as "good" and "bad" to players on the sole variable of time spent doing an mundane task
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    Yoko Kurama
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    It's funny there is a huge contradiction in what players think they desire and what they really desire. The developers can only create what they feel will be profitable. Back in the day if you played an mmorpg you could be thrown into a world in which the only way you would have a map is if you find the location first, and i'm not talking about how on here where you get a map that is blank but still have a glowing dot telling you where you need to go for your quest. You would have been thrown into a world where you go by what you see on the screen and hope you are getting close to the location of the boss you have to fight or quest area and all you have is a compass telling you to go north for a few miles and you have to wonder how miles are calculated in game lol....Today mmorpg gamers might find that sort of game a bit weird or lacking, but you know what, in those games when you got to max level you literally remembered the names of every location, every village, every monster and boss, and every piece of gear or weapon you ever carried. Those games created real memories and you had to figure out how to get through the game with friends.

    Today mmorpgs are catered to an audience which wants to be spoon-fed everything, and thus we have a game easily completed with very little help from your fellow man/woman. In other words, the sense of adventure has disappeared. Even if they make the game as big as skyrim it doesn't matter when you instantly not only know where to go for your next mission but you can get there in like 5 seconds. Do you understand now why what you desire as a gamer is impossible if you play a game designed to maximize profits through the currency of casuals? MMO's are now just that, MMO's, the RPG factor has pretty much died.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadex View Post
    Cerebral Gamers Unite
    Just wanted to say after reading your posts I totally agree with everything you said, I have a full time job (actually at work right now doing tech support), and a full time girlfriend and i would never hesitate to figure out a way to balance it all if a game came out that was worth me totally immersing myself in..heck i'd probably force her to learn how to play it if it were that great haha.
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    Last edited by Yoko_Kurama; 09-26-2013 at 08:58 AM.

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    Tiraelina Kyara
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    Whats more messed up is that the boat costs as much as the airship to use. It's supposed to be convenience that comes with a cost, not the other way around.
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    Rynhart Caz
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    Siren
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I do not necessarily agree with disabling the boats and airships..but I do think they need to make it like FF11. Personally, I think they should run on set schedules(meaning I have to wait for it to physically arrive in the city where I want to catch a ride) and those are the only times when you can board them and then it should take 10 minutes or so to make it to the destination..rather than this instant travel that we currently have..oh and they should do away with the teleport..or severely limit its use to say once or twice every 24 hours (and make it even more expensive).

    Personally, I think its a little dull to be able to tele around or insta travel on airships/boats at will and have no penalty at all. This may also help slow the game down a little and make it a little more difficult to power level your characters.
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    Last edited by CaZx; 09-26-2013 at 09:10 AM.

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    Meister Toxx
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 26
    There needs to be more IN GAME commuincation, I mean honestly. Ive hardly had to interact with much of anyone thus far, ofc im only lvl 26 atm but still..
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    Icy Bing
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    aaaaaaaaaaaa fishing up monsters and wipe everyone on the ship............. old times... old times... i miss it...
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    Bel Rumpelstiltzkin
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I thought it was okay when leveling through the first time using the main quests. It showed me around the world and got me exploring. After that however the game might as well be a hubgame. There is nothing in the world to explore after you ding 50 so yeah I agree, I hope they make use of the world they have made in many different ways.
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    Heal Bus
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    If people like all this mindless time sink then SE should probably just put in an RP server and everyone that enjoys this stuff can just go there. If you have a lot of free time then sure why not but don't pull the rest of us with you in your open timetables.
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