Help, Why do I lose aggro when healer cast regen?

[Addonex]

It does nothing for ripping threat off of someone that isn't grouped with you (like FATE tanking).

Hey Kitru, I too feel Provoke is only useful in the utmost extreme circumstances given the way it functions, and thus don't use it. But that said, I was curious if your above claim of how Provoke worked vs. players outside your own group was accurate, as I've never tested it myself.

I bring it up because of the example of 'FATE tanking' you inserted at the end there. I recall the patch notes before launch noting that they made Provoke unusable in FATES (presumably to prevent people from griefing bosses by leashing them). So that in turn led me to wondering if your claim of how Provoke worked outside the group was accurate for all contexts and you just thought 'FATE tanking' to be a good example of where it might arise, or if it's possible the example you gave was the premise for why you believed that to be the way it functions.

Addonex

[Ikkeh]

Being a lalafel will play a big part in losing aggro as all your abilities will be doing 20/25% less enmity. If you check http://ventusinvictus.blogspot.com/2...din-guide.html it will give you a bit more info.

Normally if I lose agro I will provoke + tomahawk x 2 or provoke + skull sunder/butchers block aslong as the combo is active. I never use provoke + heavy swing as it will just go back to the dpser/healer.

Your rotation looks good but I nearly always Heavy Swing - Skull Sunder - Butcher's Block x 2 just to make sure. Otherwise if someone gets aggro whilst you're doing your dps combo it is a nightmare.

Also you are opening with tomahawk i hope?

[Kitru]

Hey Kitru, I too feel Provoke is only useful in the utmost extreme circumstances given the way it functions, and thus don't use it. But that said, I was curious if your above claim of how Provoke worked vs. players outside your own group was accurate, as I've never tested it myself.

When I was leveling PLD (admittedly, that was about 2 weeks ago), I did a lot of FATEs. Whenever someone that was out of my group had aggro on something, I could Provoke it, but it wouldn't do anything but would still go on CD (did this *numerous* times on Svara). Whenever someone in my own group had aggro on something, I could Provoke it and it would behave exactly as it's supposed to (once again, did it several times on Svara).