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  1. #1
    Player
    Chiruru53's Avatar
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    Escaped Retainer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 51

    Make Punishment for abandoning Duty even more severe, and Implement kick function

    Just Queued into ifrit after an hour wait just to have the healer say "No mage, I don't trust pugs" and dropped. 15 minutes isn't enough, it should be even longer. He just singlehandedly ruined the entire run and wasted time for seven other people because of his self-centered attitude. Make it 30 minute dropout, 15 isn't enough compared to the amount of time those people have to wait to get into a group. Or at least implement the ability to find members for primals. it's really quite stupid that you can't. Also, kick function. It goes without saying why that is needed.
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    IzumiRaito's Avatar
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    Raito Izumi
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    1. The penalty for leaving should be time left on the instance clock minus time spent in queue. Any behaviour trying to force someone else to leave = 1 day game ban + 1 day df ban. Next offense is 1 week game ban + 1 week df ban. 3rd offense = month game ban + permanent duty finder ban. DF-banned player can only enter with full premade.

    2. Vote kick will be abused so hard that it will crush its advantages, especially if u have a premade that has enough members to pass a vote.
    For example:

    Pass on this item or kick!

    Skip cutscenes or kick!

    One mistake = kick

    Dps not uber? kick and hope next one will be an upgrade

    Needs a DF police instead. In vote to call the police votes premade team counts only as 1 vote. If vote passes GM comes to investigate live. There should be enough number of policemen so that the waiting time does not exceed 5 minutes. Hiring cost may be high, but it is the only solution that wont hurt innocent players.
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    Player
    Chiruru53's Avatar
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    Escaped Retainer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by IzumiRaito View Post
    Hang them all!
    My request and example of a punishment was reasonable, yours was just..... yeah.
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    So the people that leave a group because their tank is garbage should be punished as well?
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    IzumiRaito's Avatar
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    Raito Izumi
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    So the people that leave a group because their tank is garbage should be punished as well?
    If someone plays bad, first u should politely tell him what he is doing wrong and why, and tell him how they can improve. If he refuses to listen without proposing reasonable counter arguments, then he commits a crime of "refusing to communicate with team" what should be judged by DF police.
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    Axl Foley
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    So the people that leave a group because their tank is garbage should be punished as well?
    Absolutely! Communicate with the tank to help them do their job better. If they are really beyond reason or just trolling, then vote kick him. If the rest of the group doesn't agree with the vote kick, then obviously there's something wrong with you. Go leave the instance then wait the appropriate time before re-queueing.

    Seriously, why are people so against trying to help others become better?
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  7. #7
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    TheAngryEwok's Avatar
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    Raifu Shirudo
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    Lamia
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    So the people that leave a group because their tank is garbage should be punished as well?
    Well yeah, because they're wasting EVERYONEs time.
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    Magus Zeal
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Duty Finder is fine. Solution is to premake your group and avoid Duty Finder when possible. All other solutions have their own faults.
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    Than Mazus
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuujin View Post
    Duty Finder is fine. Solution is to premake your group and avoid Duty Finder when possible. All other solutions have their own faults.
    "Duty finder is fine, just don't use duty finder"
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