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    Iolair_Silverwing's Avatar
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    Iolair Silverwing
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    Scholar as healer??

    So right now I'm in Haukke Manor, (yes right now, fairy is pretty much auto piloting heals) and the Archer asked who the healer was. The Thaumaturge said I (Scholar) was. And I said I thought I was DPS (since Arcanist is) and the tank proceded to call me "retarded" (duty finder, go figure)
    He said my job is to be healer primary, and support. now I know I can heal, but I've been dpsing since getting the scholar job, and have ran dungeons with conjurers and white mages as a scholar.
    Am I mistaken in thinking I should focus on DPS first, heals second?
    Or is my tank the "retarded" one?
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    Last edited by Iolair_Silverwing; 09-25-2013 at 11:14 AM.

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    Did you NOT see that big green healer role indicator by your name? what exactly did you think SCH did with a pet? i mean..you did look at her abilites, right?

    SMN is the DPS of that trio. SCH is indeed a healer. they just can DOT as well.
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    Eco Volare
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    Scholar is definitely a healer lol. Not sure how you were dpsing in your groups if you were using the duty finder... It always matches 1 tank 2 dps and 1 healer which you happen to be the healer. Now prior to 30, your class (arcanist) can only queue as dps, but once you become a summoner (dps) or scholar (healer) your role can change.

    But if you are saying you were dpsing in your dungeons as a scholar post 30 then you are doing it wrong... very wrong.
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    Cally Evergrey
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Scholar is healer first. Summoner is dps first. This is where arcanist splits, even though they have skills of both. Having both isn't too difficult, and a good way to learn how both work. You also can only queue as a healer in the duty finder when a scholar, upper part of the panel where it says your role. Scholar has pretty good mp, the fairy can do some good healing, and i've seen scholars dps. In higher dungeons though, if you don't focus on healing, lots of wipes. If you want to dps, pick up thaum to level 15, and then summoner, it will take almost no time.

    You probably had white mages and conjurers if the group was 8 as those have two healers.
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    SCH is a healer, SMN and ACN are DPS. You cannot que for DF as SCH for a DPS role, it is impossible so you have not done it. You can however que as ACN which is what you most likely did. If you want to DPS then unlock SMN and play that instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    SCH is a healer, SMN and ACN are DPS. You cannot que for DF as SCH for a DPS role, it is impossible so you have not done it. You can however que as ACN which is what you most likely did. If you want to DPS then unlock SMN and play that instead.
    I'd also like to add in case the OP isn't aware, Aracanist is meant for more solo play while the jobs are more for party play. They can all be played solo or with groups, but jobs give skills and specialization that works better with groups.

    I also don't think he's a troll, the mechanics can be confusing for people. It's possible he didn't have the job crystal equipped or wasn't aware of the role spot on the duty finder, or how jobs work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitzero View Post
    I'd also like to add in case the OP isn't aware, Aracanist is meant for more solo play while the jobs are more for party play. They can all be played solo or with groups, but jobs give skills and specialization that works better with groups.

    I also don't think he's a troll, the mechanics can be confusing for people. It's possible he didn't have the job crystal equipped or wasn't aware of the role spot on the duty finder, or how jobs work.
    Thank you, and see, here's another confusing part. As scholar, I can go through my hunting log and my kills get credited to the Arcanist log. Same goes with White Mage and Conjurers hunting log, hence another reason I assumed DPS over Healing
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Iolair_Silverwing View Post
    Thank you, and see, here's another confusing part. As scholar, I can go through my hunting log and my kills get credited to the Arcanist log. Same goes with White Mage and Conjurers hunting log, hence another reason I assumed DPS over Healing

    I think you're getting "Class" and "Job" confused. Arcanist is your Class. If you don't equip a soul to use a job, then Arcanist is DPS. Arcanist is the only class with two souls atm: Summoner and Scholar.

    When you equip the Summoner soul, you are a DPS role. When you equip the Scholar soul, you are a Healer role. If you queue for dungeons as a scholar, you are queuing for the healer role of the party. If you do not want to be healer, then you need to either unequip the Scholar soul so you revert to Arcanist, or you need to equip the Summoner soul instead.
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    Vanyaeli Raegi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolair_Silverwing View Post
    Thank you, and see, here's another confusing part. As scholar, I can go through my hunting log and my kills get credited to the Arcanist log. Same goes with White Mage and Conjurers hunting log, hence another reason I assumed DPS over Healing
    I don't see how that's confusing. You are still the base class, WHM stems from CNJ, you are just a CNJ with more healing-based skills. Exp earned as a job credit the exp to the base class, and vice versa which of course means it's the same Hunting Log. It's really not that difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AridElf View Post
    I don't see how that's confusing. You are still the base class, WHM stems from CNJ, you are just a CNJ with more healing-based skills. Exp earned as a job credit the exp to the base class, and vice versa which of course means it's the same Hunting Log. It's really not that difficult.
    Which is why I assumed the Scholar job was DPS, seeing that the Level 30 for it is Arcanist, not Conjurer
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