Incorrect NPC dialog: local leves NPC

[PawPrince]

After playing for a while I've noticed a bunch of badly written NPC dialog and game text, which are too numerous and I haven't documented.......also a lot of inconsistent speaking styles, out-of-place diction, wrong diction, and that sort of thing. I don't know whether these are mostly errors of translation, or of the original writing, or what. Figured SE will get around to fixing them maybe, eventually, whenever, or something.

But I couldn't let this one slip by because it pissed me off.

The local guildleves npc Tierney in Gridania (and possibly the other towns too, I haven't checked) is telling me I can't have any more local leves because I am only allowed to have 8 at a time. I'm looking at my journal and I have 0 leves. None, nada. Zero. Well after asking my LS and doing some research, I found out that as a rule you are only allowed to have 8 local leves per 36 hours, and apparently they reset according to some set schedule, every 36 hours.

The verbage "at a time" is generally taken to mean "simultaneously." From what she's telling me, I would assume that I can have 8 more local leves immediately after turning in my previous 8, so long as I didn't try to get a 9th. So if the "time" she is talking about is actually 36 hours, and not just "a" time, then the NPC really needs to say so. The reason "8 at a time" is completely wrong. That's totally different than "8 every 36 hours" even thought he latter would imply the former. Totally different. She's giving me the wrong reason why I can't have more leves.

As the dialog is now, the NPC is basically insinuating that I already have 8 leves when I really have 0. That's very misleading, and as a newbie I found it frustrating and bewildering enough to want to post about it. So there you have it.

This bug is reproducible by acquiring and completing 8 local leves, and then immediately returning to the guild counter and trying to acquire another local leve.

My LS mates tried to make excuses for this obvious bug by saying that the leves were actually invisible and would be removed after the reset. Well that's STILL pretty messed up, because why in the hells would I have INVISIBLE GUILDLEVES? Do they also give me invisible exp, and invisible gil and rewards? Ooh, maybe I have to strip all my clothes off, and then go bludgeon invisible star marmots with an invisible cudgel for their elusive invisible nuts! Those wily little star marmots! No---that's completely stupid and back-asswards---that's so effed up---and even if it's true it doesn't make the experience any less confusing.



Here is the exact text in question:

[...] to ensure that the available tasks are distributed evenly amongst all those who seek employment, the guild limits the number of leves that can be assigned to any adventurer at a time. [...]

It iz teh br0ken, plz fix, kthx<3







There is also an NPC somewhere in Gridania, I think in the back of the archers guild or the carpenters guild, that uses the word "gaol" which reminds me of Oscar Wilde, who had a particularly abrasive fixation on colors, so "gaol" is a bad word for me, fix that too please. It's very random and out of place anyway and I bet the better half of players don't have the slightest clue what a gaol is or how to say it.

[Xophious]

Greetings PawPrince!

Thank you for the details as to why you believe the NPC is using incorrect dialog. I can see why you would be posting about it to us. The NPC's dialogue is by deisgn so the thread was moved from In-Game Bugs to General Discussion. While we do not have a direct Suggestions & Feedback section, General Discussion serves that purpose.

Thanks again!

[Rjain]

I wasn't aware players were all English professors.

Apart from the rare spelling or grammar mistake I have nothing wrong with NPC dialogue, nor was I mislead by anything the NPCs said during my entire time playing. I like the slang, I like the dialect, and I know what almost every single thing is they say.

My opinion is there's no problem and this request is overly pedantic.

[Azurymber]

i find the dialogue in this game to be a joke. There are tons of grammatical errors and a lot of things that make absolutely no sense. Even the message you get when you have fatigue where it says "xxx skill skill points" or whatever sounds stupid.

I'm hoping they fix the fail grammar problems before PS3 release. Otherwise i doubt many people will take the game seriously

[PawPrince]

The fact that this NPC would be lying to me by design is a joke as well. I don't understand the rationale here. The issue with the dialog is quite obvious if you actually go through the steps to reproduce it, so it's not like I'm nit-picking about a minor preference of wording or whatever. So why would the NPC be designed to lie to me about the game's mechanics, especially an NPC that's going to be used a lot by newbies? That's like a slap in the face to anyone trying to figure out this damned clunky game.

[Elexia]

I'm hoping they fix the fail grammar problems before PS3 release. Otherwise i doubt many people will take the game seriously

In all MMOs I've played I've yet to meet more than a handful of people who actually reads things.

[Sephr]

The fact that this NPC would be lying to me by design is a joke as well. I don't understand the rationale here. The issue with the dialog is quite obvious if you actually go through the steps to reproduce it, so it's not like I'm nit-picking about a minor preference of wording or whatever. So why would the NPC be designed to lie to me about the game's mechanics, especially an NPC that's going to be used a lot by newbies? That's like a slap in the face to anyone trying to figure out this damned clunky game.

Melodrama, thy name is PawPrince.

[PawPrince]

Melodrama, thy name is PawPrince.

Any music you hear must be in your head, sonny!

[PawPrince]

Greetings PawPrince!

Thank you for the details as to why you believe the NPC is using incorrect dialog. I can see why you would be posting about it to us. The NPC's dialogue is by deisgn so the thread was moved from In-Game Bugs to General Discussion. While we do not have a direct Suggestions & Feedback section, General Discussion serves that purpose.

Thanks again!

Dear Xophious,

I think you're just not understanding what I'm trying to say. This obviously requires an illustration.




IMAGINE: A day at the office. It's a little after 2pm, and you're starting to feel the drag of the workday. From over the cube wall, you hear me triumphantly tear open a brand new package of oreos that I've accroachingly liberated from my neighbor's locked desk with the help of a straightened paperclip tooled into a slapdash lockpick, and a small flathead driver. I'm talking the real deal: a full 1lb, 2oz. bag of kinetic potential in a bungee-strapped office chair across a freshly polished floor, not one of those stupid 100-calorie packettes.

Determined to command your own just share of these spoils, you round the corner and presume to ask me for one of these delicious chocolate medallions. I say, "well...okay, but only 'cause I'm such a nice guy!" I give you one. You hastily pocket the oreo, and hold out your hand expectantly for another. And another, and another... finally, "one more for the walk to the water cooler," you say. "Mooch!" I reply, "Scram, you pig. You can only have 8 at a time. Come back later!"

Slinking back to your cube, you figure 8 will probably take you a while anyways, and besides, I said you could come back later. Relishing each second, you begin to perform that age-old ritual, whereby one twists the oreo apart and licks the half with the most frosting, then consumes both halves. As you continue to enjoy your saturating snack, you feel as though your very taste buds were each in its own individual orgasmic heaven! At the height of your savory experience, you conclude that these are---in fact---THE best oreo cookies you have ever had in your entire life, and you absolutely must have more of them.

Finishing off the last one, you still have not forgotten my words, "You can only have 8 at a time. Come back later!" Well, now you've cleaned your plate, and other people have had a fair chance to get some oreos too. It's time for seconds! You round the corner again, and with upturned hands approach my desk, but before you can utter your request...

"Scram, pig! You can only have 8 at a time. Come back later!"

You see the package of oreos on my desk, still only half gone, and insist, "But I don't have any left! You said--"

"SCRAM! I told you, only 8 at a time fool! Come back later!"



HOW DOES THIS MAKE YOU FEEL???
HOW DOES THIS MAKE YOUR BRAIN FEEL???



BTW here is a screenshot to help visualize.
http://img21.imageshack.us/i/bugjol.jpg/

[Kilta_Firelotus]

some stuff to point out. NPC run on game time not earth time.
So saying "at a Time" for an npc is correct. A simple /clock check or looking up on the lodestone you woulda found out that info. Also got to understand the npc dialog is translated in various languages and mistakes tend to happen.

But ya i agree with the poster your being a grammar natzi and letting the game bug you too much.

judging by your failed art work, iwhat I said was confirmed