Leveling another class without quests

[IceCold]

Anyone got any tips on how exactly to get another class to 50 without quests to start you off?

[Raze_Krauser]

Hunting log gets you off to a good start.

Obviously, Fates around the areas of your level.

Leves.

Dungeons.

Exploration every nook and cranny of thing you may have missed.

Area quests you may have missed.

kill everything in your path, from point A to B.


...these ideas may not be 'ideal', but they are the only effective way to get a second class to 50...

[Chrysania]

See you in the fate zerg. mate. There is no viable alternative for you, if you don't have people you can farm dungeons with all day long.

[thuswindburn]

Fate, fate, fate. Some people hate it, some love it. I'm in the latter group. It's fun meeting a new group to fate with it every hour or two. Alternatively, you can do dungeons, but it's not going to be as fast as fates. Also, if you have any guildhests you havent first time completed they're a good bet. Lastly, I'd suggest using leve allowances for DoL/H unless you dont intend to ever use them. They don't have fates or dungeons to help them out XD

[MillieVanillie]

Fates are pretty darn good. Also Leves for your Grand Company. If you've maxed out one, join the other for fun and...uhhhh....prizes? Yea let's roll with that. Oh and if your rollin a pugilist, practice comboing. Trust me on this one.

[Lunavi]

FATEs is fastest, but I recommend to queue for dungeons and FATEing while waiting to get the Gil and equipment to make your leveling go around economically if you care for in game economy. Trust me, most of the time you will still be FATEing even if you queue for dungeons. Atleast if you are leveling a DPS.

If you do not care for neighter fun or economy and just want your XP FATEing is the way to go.

[Chrysania]

Its hard to combine effective FATE grinding and waiting in DF queues, 'cause if you're solo in FATEs, you're not doing it right. Come Dragonhead/North Thanalan, you pretty much have to be in a fate party or you're going to be missing out on a lot of XP.

And you can't be in a queue without your entire party also being in said queue. It'll boot you right out. Its one or the other.

Sit and stare at the beautiful scenery while you wait for fates to pop, or sit and stare at the beautiful scenery while you wait for the queue to pop.

At least the scenery -is- pretty. Not sure I've seen skies done so vibrantly and beautifully in any game before, let alone other MMO's.

[Lunavi]

It has worked out good for me so far in dragonhead. But I agree that it is very hard and it requires total focus and in the worst cases being first on place and then just spamming Freeze II to your hearts content. I guess it is harder if you do not have good AoE that do not require targets.

[Vodomir]

Anyone got any tips on how exactly to get another class to 50 without quests to start you off?

Umm ... no once forces you to level all of your classes on just one character. You can as well just create a new character et voila, you have all of the quests to carry you through to level 50. Creating actual alt characters instead of only alt classes on one and the same character also has some other benefits:

- you can gear your classes way faster, as each character can save up to 300 tomes of mythology per week for his own use; if you only use one character those 300 tomes/week will have to be split up between classes
- you can partake in more then one raid group without any raid lock issues
- last but not least, you are free to match the race of your character so its attributes benefit the class the character is designed for

[Chrysania]

No one forces any of us to subscribe either, Vodomir. So, 'Umm', maybe they'll want to make some of those systems fun to use. I hear that 'obnoxious grind that serves no purpose other than to waste your time' isn't fun.

Now, I know I'm just nuts here, thinking that games should be fun and things like the basic core of a game's advancement shouldn't be a convoluted, fugly mess to navigate, but that's the real issue here, Vodomir.

You are also aware that they sell an 'Entry' subscription that only allows 1 char per server (8 chars max across all servers collectively), of course? Thus, you are aware that one of their two subscription models DIRECTLY IMPLIES that you're going to be doing it all on one character, at least on a given server?

You'd think that a studio that really wanted their game to succeed...would make it a joy to play that game, and an enjoyable, interesting process to use the systems they clearly went to a great deal of trouble to engineer and develop.

Raise your hand if you think it'll be fun to level multiple battle classes on a single character in the current leveling environment.

Those of you that raised your hand, I've got a bag of rice and I'm going to dump it on the floor. I would like you to count the grains and put them back in the bag for me (one at a time, of course. It must be a very accurate count)

You should enjoy such a task.