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    Benzareli's Avatar
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    How many threads have been deleted? locked? removed?

    How many in game botters have been removed?

    How many RMT spammers have been removed?
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    Kirku Okazaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkanoid View Post
    You keep re posting this and its a ridiculous claim. They'd lose more customers and "numbers" than they would keep leaving the botters and spammers in the game. Stop re posting this unless you have any source of them saying this.
    OK keep pretending that its not true and it will stop being true. Let me know how that works out. If you can find evidence to the contrary then post it. Obviously you didn't play 1.0. So many botters had all lv50 crafts and DoL. Did SE ban them even though they were obviously botting in the same spot for days? No. Reason? Because if they started banning in 1.0 the servers would have been more ghost towns than what they already were. If server populations and simultaneous connections weren't a priority to SE, why do they mention it in the live letter and use it for an excuse for their failed server infrastructure at launch?
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    Hey look, I'm posting in a deleted thread!
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    Response time on deleting posts is minutes. People get banned for four letter words heard on prime time TV. Calling someone out is a bannable offense. Bot'rs don't get banned. What conclusion am I to draw?
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    Y'ahte Tia
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    That it takes more to prove botting than it takes to prove you said what you shouldn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invz View Post
    If they cared about banning spammers/botters/position hackers then why is it that after they get reported, they are still there 3 or more days later?
    Because all player reports should be taken at face value with zero investigation, which incidentally takes no time to do if it ever happens

    In FF11 response times for botters and hackers was within minutes.
    I guess you are also expecting people to take your claim at face value here too aren't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invz View Post
    OK keep pretending that its not true and it will stop being true. Let me know how that works out. If you can find evidence to the contrary then post it. Obviously you didn't play 1.0. So many botters had all lv50 crafts and DoL. Did SE ban them even though they were obviously botting in the same spot for days? No. Reason? Because if they started banning in 1.0 the servers would have been more ghost towns than what they already were. If server populations and simultaneous connections weren't a priority to SE, why do they mention it in the live letter and use it for an excuse for their failed server infrastructure at launch?
    I've posted this in several other threads that have popped up. Sorry for the "spam" posting but I thought it was valuable information and should have been given by the devs themselves in a Dev Tracking post.

    They have a process, for them it gets the best results. It makes dealing with these things easier for them at this time. If you create your own process it delays the results you would like. While attaching a photo is smart it does not help them in on their end. You got to remember that they get hundreds of these and if each one is different than the last it make sorting through it that much harder.

    If they can group things by world and area and time via the process they have they might be able to deal with more instances of RMT quicker than if they have to exit out of their program, look through a screen shot, gather the info that way, then go back in and try and generate a report.

    I know the process right now is frustrating but it is working and things are being dealt with. They are trying to refine this process to make it easier on the reporter and the one receiving the report. Remember this is just as frustrating for them as it is for you. you are just one person having the issue, they are dealing with everyone having everybody's issue.

    From a Game Watch interview:

    Source Link

    Talking about shouts, there are lots of Real Money Trade (RMT) related shouts in town, are you planning something to address this?

    Right now we are permanent banning them at really fast pace, that’s one, and also we are updating the chat filters daily. We’re making it hit the chat filter first so it doesn’t get to the other players. RMTs are fighting back against this and they are making it more code like......

    yes. Specially when you play on NA server, there are messages in which I can’t even understand what it is. There are lots of irritating message flying around.

    Yes. They are putting in greek characters, and stuff like that, we are continuing to take those down.

    So it’s kind of like Google’s spam filter, we shouldn’t be hearing much of these shouts over time?

    Yes exactly. We are updating the chat filter in extreme speed.

    It’s not completely gone but the amount sure feels like it’s getting less, so chat filter huh, that’s an interesting idea.

    By making it where they can’t even say it. Also when noticing them to permanent ban them, we are working on these thoroughly. Since we’re doing thoroughly, it’s to a point they of harassment. We receive over few hundred reports in one day, and the GM instantly investigates and goes into position to address the matter. As mentioned before we are dealing with them.

    So although right now it’s repetitive, the effect is getting greater?

    Right now there is a lot going on in America. On the NA forums there is even a thread asking to sell the appearance changing potion with real money which is familiar in F2P. Looking at that kind of thread, I think to myself for RMTs they can’t do any business with increase of F2P MMOs. If world becomes a world where you can buy gold and experience points with real money, there is no way for RMTs to profit from. New big MMO titles using subscription model is FFXIV ARR and TESO so now I understand why they are desperate. Only thing left for us to do is to exterminate them.
    Notice how the messages are getting stranger and stranger? Its because they are getting more and more desperate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    That it takes more to prove botting than it takes to prove you said what you shouldn't
    I like you ambiguous time frame. I think one teleport to a node is actually quicker than reading a curse word.
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    It takes time to prove botting!

    /go to random character spamming shouts every .5s in uldah about buying their gil.

    meanwhile, *SE scratching their heads* botto desuka?
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    Last edited by AjoraOak; 09-26-2013 at 04:50 AM.

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