What justifies the "casual" label?

[Rivienne]

People saying they play five or more hours a day and accomplish nothing are just bad.

Well. Actually. If by "accomplish nothing" you mean "aren't end content" then you are blurring a line yourself. I could easily have made 50 on any class by now if I had wanted to. It isn't exactly hard if that is your only focus and goal and you have the time.

Just because many of us choose to do the many things you can do in this game, without an arbitrary emphasis on speeding through to the end game content, doesn't mean we are "bad". It doesn't mean we are "good" either. It means our focus is not the same.

So yeah, casual, hardcore, raider, crafter, whatever.. Many of us play this game for fun. What that fun looks like has nothing to do with our time, or input, or skill, but instead personal preference.. So yeah. aaaanyway.

[Xceriis]

Basically people who just want to play the game and not get into the numbers and narrow focus of pwn kids.

[Velox]

It's always been a meaningless term, and so is "elite." They do not have solid definitions, therefore rendering them as subjective. Truth is, there really is no such thing as elite gamers, casuals, hardcore gamers, noobs, elitists, etc.

If you play video games and you enjoy video games, you're a gamer. No its, ands, or buts. Anyone tells you otherwise is either ignorant to this fact, or can't handle being affiliated with people who, gods forbid, might just enjoy something in a "different" way than they do.

[RobotoInu]

I'm casual, even though I play for several hours a day, here is why.

I don't let the game determine my real life schedule.
I don't take it seriously.
I don't rage when my DF group does poorly.
I just enjoy the game and the people without the desire to be better than anyone else.

-RobotoInu

[Maarkov]

People saying they play five or more hours a day and accomplish nothing are just bad.

On weeknight, as DPS using the duty finder, I can easily play 5 hours in a night and only get one dungeon queue to pop... and then end up with one of the raid geared tanks afk'ing in a corner. Essentially accomplishing nothing.

The term has different meanings to everyone. Anyone who resorts to derrogatory terms to separate themselves from others is probably worse off than those they attempt to decry.

[Macka]

OK. So, nobody either have a clue what a casual is or there are like twenty different definations of the term Casual Player. On a side note just because someone plays 5 or 6 hours and "Accomplish Nothing" as someone put it doesnt mean they are bad players. Just maybe, they have different agenda then what you call getting things "Accomplish" also over a hour wait time as my Monk and 50 secs to 5 minutes on my tank see the difference.

[The-Alchemist]

Casual =/=bad is false. People saying they play five or more hours a day and accomplish nothing are just bad. The big bad elitists can spend five to eight hours a week to beat all the content.

Casual is someone who has time constraints and can not put in much time for playing. This usually leads to the casuals not raiding, which is where this line got blured and bads began claiming themselves as casuals since they also don't raid. I have known plenty of casual players in mmos that were still doing progression raiding.

Content is easy if you don't use the DF. That is why the big bad elitist are able to beat all the damn content in a week.

[Happysour]

I think people are really blurring the line here. Look at it this way, I work fulltime and go to the gym 3 days a week, and I babysit one morning. Now, generally I play on my days off for an hour or so after work if I'm not busy.

This is the true definition of a casual, someone who plays casually from time to time, not "i play casually 8 hours a day". If you play 8 hours a day and don't progress much at all each day, it's not that you are a casual, it's that you really just don't play the game.

EDIT: I also do not like easy content and I don't see a rush to 50 reason. But then this is coming from someone who actively played Lineage 2 for a good 4 years, a lot when I was younger.

[nekochen]

My definition of a casual player is, someone who isn't aggressively seeking to be better than most other players. There is another zone in between hardcore and casual, one that I don't know the word for it... I think myself fits in that zone. One that wants to improve but fails to find the appropriate group of player that wishes the same, so it ends up being stuck in the middle.

[The-Alchemist]

It has nothing to do with how much time is spent in game or what you do in real life (not sure why people keep telling us what they do, we dont care) but it has to do with how much content deemed end game you have completed. You could have every class to level 30 but that makes zero difference if you have no end game content completed.

Honestly the problem with this game its too easy and people can pretty much have all the end game content just buy running AK a million times. So by the time you are halfway through the patch and the next patch isn't coming for another 1.5 months everyone has the same gear as you. While in other MMOs just to get a full set before the next patch came out took work. Not just oh.. Ill run AK 7 times a week and within 5 weeks I will have all the end game gear.