Re-rolling from Warrior, thoughts?

[nimrod]

Hm.. we manage fine in Coils till Turn5 with a Warrior. Our Bard is interupting with me on turn2.. don´t know why u have so much problems with Warriors, its a great job and HELPS ALOT in Coils. But guess ppl still don´t know which cross abilities to take and how to play a Warrior or just don´t have the gear for the content?

Sure its not nice that they have no silence but they put out way more DPS so its compensating very well for the one thing they lack.

[Zaiken]

Looks like its time for math.
Assuming identical gear, and the 25% hp increase for Warriors.
Paladin has 4500 HP. Takes 20% less damage.
Warrior has 5625 HP. Takes 15% more healing.

Boss lands a blow for 3k damage.
Paladin reduces this to 2400, leaving him with 2100 HP.
Warrior takes the full 3k, reducing him to 2625.

White Mage casts Cure II for 1200, for this we will assume two White Mages each equally geared casting at one Tank each.
Paladin has 2100 HP, receives 1200 HP, now has 3300 HP.
Warrior has 2625 HP, receives 1380 HP, how has 4005 HP.

Huh. Well look at that, both tanks took the same hit, survived it in their own way.

Now if those Healers were Scholars, using Adloquium on their Tanks for around 500 we get:
Paladin has 2100 HP, receives 500, bringing him to 2600 with a 500 damage buffer shield.
Warrior has 2625 HP, receives 575, bringing him to 3200, with a 575 damage buffer shield.

In both cases the Warrior survives with far more HP than the paladin after a single heal, But with the Scholars, not only is the Heal bigger, the Shield is ALSO bigger as a result of the larger Heal.

I cannot see how Warriors could be inferior or harder to heal than Paladins.

You didn't take into content that Paladin have Defensive Buff that reduce the damage significantly, so Paladin take a lot less damage. Warrior don't have this.

[Verrilee]

To answer your question about re-rolling or just leveling the character you already have - I have leveled up both ways and I found that either was viable so it comes down to your preferred style of playing. If you level your WAR as a PLD, you will get an exp bonus but you won't have all the quests. That means fate grinding and leves. You can go to a new starting city to get quests for the lower levels but it isn't anything like the first time around where you can *almost* level entirely from the quests you find along the way, at least until about L43. If you don't mind fate grinding, this is the fastest way to go. Also, PLDs will level up WAR anyway to get the cross-class skills so that saves you some time. The only reason to start fresh is if you just cannot stand having to fate grind, or you are going with a caster where cross-class isn't going to matter and you want a clean slate for armory and inventory, etc.

[Sylve]

You didn't take into content that Paladin have Defensive Buff that reduce the damage significantly, so Paladin take a lot less damage. Warrior don't have this.

I suggest you reread my post, starting with the Third line, and the 6th line. That 20% reduction from Shield Oath is calculated, if you had bothered to read it.

[Inosaska]

The problem right now is that people are not bringing scholars with them and keep thinking low number heals and they don't see the big number heals like a white mage so because they don't understand how scholar works they don't bring them along. Here is the chart with how healers are distributed.



The game is still in its infancy stages and people need to learn to start using all the classes. People are just paranoid of trying something new and taking risks. Once the game has aged a bit and some free company comes along and proves everyone wrong then you will see everyone change their mentality.

[Rillifane]

Didn't yoshida say during one of the live streams or interviews that the dev team uses warriors to tank everything and said they were powerful just some people aren't using them to their full potential.

[Zaiken]

I suggest you reread my post, starting with the Third line, and the 6th line. That 20% reduction from Shield Oath is calculated, if you had bothered to read it.

I don't mean that passive buff, I mean their skill buff Rampart, Sentinel, Awareness, Bulwark ( 60% block rate on shield.)

[Azostar]

Thanks for the discussion guys, decided to level PLD after all, for the current better tanking, and it will also benefit warrior tank. Will probably level up MNK at some point too for the skills but that'll be a while off.

[Rillifane]

I don't mean that passive buff, I mean their skill buff Rampart, Sentinel, Awareness, Bulwark ( 60% block rate on shield.)

Awareness can be cross classed to warrior so you might want to scratch that off your list.

[Shaddix]

Why would you reroll? Just change your job lol. That's the whole point of the system is that you can level anything you want all on the same character.

Were you thinking you would just play a single class forever?