Re-rolling from Warrior, thoughts?

[Vmage]

Also pre coil

see that's the thing

pre coil they're fine, the only fight with a notable difference pre-coil would be titan hard, his mountain busters require a little more work from healers when using a warrior instead of a paladin

but you've still got an inner beast ready for every single one, so the gap isn't that wide

the problem is when you realize the game doesn't end at titan hard.

people predicted this when looking at paladin and warrior skill sets - warriors are good, possibly better for easy content

paladins are better for progression

to any player with aspirations of raiding, that means you play paladin

to any player that doesn't want to see coil before they start nerfing the early parts in patch 2.2, that means play warrior

[Blazn]

Done everything but coil and i have 0 issues tanking or getting in groups. While my damage taken is greater than a paladins most my healers agree they aren't healing that much mmore than a paladin, warriors require much more skill and timing of CD's to get the job done though. Also Yoshi is hinting at buffs for the warrior in 2.1

[Zumi]

Done everything but coil and i have 0 issues tanking or getting in groups. While my damage taken is greater than a paladins most my healers agree they aren't healing that much mmore than a paladin, warriors require much more skill and timing of CD's to get the job done though. Also Yoshi is hinting at buffs for the warrior in 2.1

The main problem with taking a warrior to coil silence, when fighting ADS bosses which appears in turn 1 and 2 you will not be able to silence their high voltage move which if it gets off usually will cause a wipe. You could get around this by having 2 bards do it. Also the snake boss at the end of turn 1 hits really hard and fast that you constantly need to be rolling cooldowns on it which warrior doesn't have enough to do this.

[LunarEmerald]

Done everything but coil and i have 0 issues tanking or getting in groups. While my damage taken is greater than a paladins most my healers agree they aren't healing that much mmore than a paladin, warriors require much more skill and timing of CD's to get the job done though. Also Yoshi is hinting at buffs for the warrior in 2.1

Coil is where it makes a difference so doing everything but Coil means nothing when talking about Coil.

[Zaiken]

You can't have the best of Both World anyway, Paladin have shield, more defensive skills, better stun then Warrior. But their damage is relatively low. Warrior damage is decent, have lot of AOE damaging ability, can hold aggro on multiple mob better, can replenish their hp. But they don't have a shield which lose a lot of defend, don't have a lot of defensive buff like a Paladin.

Most people take Paladin over Warrior for end game just to be safe and put less stress on the healer. The battle go faster with a Warrior Tank, but the trade off is Warrior is more risky as a Tank compare to Paladin.

[Azostar]

You can't have the best of Both World anyway, Paladin have shield, more defensive skills, better stun then Warrior. But their damage is relatively low. Warrior damage is decent, have lot of AOE damaging ability, can hold aggro on multiple mob better, can replenish their hp. But they don't have a shield which lose a lot of defend, don't have a lot of defensive buff like a Paladin.

Most people take Paladin over Warrior for end game just to be safe and put less stress on the healer. The battle go faster with a Warrior Tank, but the trade off is Warrior is more risky as a Tank compare to Paladin.

The idea of a tank is to mitigate and control damage coming through the the party though, it's the DDs jobs to bring in the pain, the way I see it warriors are filling neither rolls.

[Zaiken]

The idea of a tank is to mitigate and control damage coming through the the party though, it's the DDs jobs to bring in the pain, the way I see it warriors are filling neither rolls.

Which is why a Paladin is always prefer over a Warrior in End Game. Warrior can Tank all Dungeon, but End Game a Paladin does it better. As a Tank role is for you to take the least amount of damage and hold aggro, not DPS, and a Paladin is all of this. Warrior have a lot of HP but I always see their HP go way too low too fast, it does make them risky to bring a long.

[Aoshi1]

PLD for sure, since you were going the tank route anyways. It just sucks that they developed a job such as WAR, and didn't have the foresight to make it viable at endgame. An entire job is now being dismissed, and MRD is being levelled up as either requirements for other jobs, or cross-class skills. Damn shame.

[Azostar]

PLD for sure, since you were going the tank route anyways. It just sucks that they developed a job such as WAR, and didn't have the foresight to make it viable at endgame. An entire job is now being dismissed, and MRD is being levelled up as either requirements for other jobs, or cross-class skills. Damn shame.

Yo see I don't mind going paladin because the gear i've already bought still counts in the end, it's just what is the fastest way of leveling back up to 50.

[Sylve]

Looks like its time for math.
Assuming identical gear, and the 25% hp increase for Warriors.
Paladin has 4500 HP. Takes 20% less damage.
Warrior has 5625 HP. Takes 15% more healing.

Boss lands a blow for 3k damage.
Paladin reduces this to 2400, leaving him with 2100 HP.
Warrior takes the full 3k, reducing him to 2625.

White Mage casts Cure II for 1200, for this we will assume two White Mages each equally geared casting at one Tank each.
Paladin has 2100 HP, receives 1200 HP, now has 3300 HP.
Warrior has 2625 HP, receives 1380 HP, how has 4005 HP.

Huh. Well look at that, both tanks took the same hit, survived it in their own way.

Now if those Healers were Scholars, using Adloquium on their Tanks for around 500 we get:
Paladin has 2100 HP, receives 500, bringing him to 2600 with a 500 damage buffer shield.
Warrior has 2625 HP, receives 575, bringing him to 3200, with a 575 damage buffer shield.

In both cases the Warrior survives with far more HP than the paladin after a single heal, But with the Scholars, not only is the Heal bigger, the Shield is ALSO bigger as a result of the larger Heal.
I cannot see how Warriors could be inferior or harder to heal than Paladins.