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  1. #21
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    Menae's Avatar
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    Menae Dulanis
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by chumsy View Post
    whm version is better and lower level to obtain, basically. How about adding something like, when leeches removes a debuff, 20% chance caster gains an aetherflow charge
    I don't think I've ever noticed Esuna's proc go off, to be honest. I DO understand why Leeches is a job ability (it's so SMN don't get it). Wouldn't mind SCH getting their version at 30, though.
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  2. #22
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    Firetta's Avatar
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    Firetta Thierremont
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    Lamia
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    I think they wanted to introduce the shielding mechanic as early as possible, which is why Adlo is 30. And it's painful until you get Succor; Whispering Dawn with Fey Illumination is okay, but you don't have Rouse yet to make it really shine (and it's a HoT, so no insta-healing).
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  3. #23
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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Menae View Post
    I don't think I've ever noticed Esuna's proc go off, to be honest.
    I didn't even know Esuna had a proc, lol. It's really negligible as there are very few situations where you need to spam Esuna.

    I'm guessing the devs thought Embrace+Adloquium was enough to sustain through poisons, but Brayflox and Cutter's Cry can be miserable.
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  4. #24
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Menae View Post
    Meh, it helps on the last boss in Brayflox.
    Heck, it helps on the first boss of Brayflox although it is possible to power heal through the poison. The final boss is definitely more effort, though.

    I definitely missed it during Cutter's Cry my first run through of that as well, primarily on the second boss for that sandstorm effect. Thankfully, you get Leeches if you've capped the dungeon so it's only temporary if you're running it at the lower end of it's range.

    There's a few trash mobs in Sunken Temple that poison, but it's not hard to just heal through those moments so I didn't miss it in that dungeon.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 01-21-2014 at 07:37 AM.

  5. #25
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    Cullen Dionysion
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Yeah, I've seen SCH's struggle a bit healing the tank on the last Boss of Brayflox when the poison count hits 4 from repeated hits/vomit. It's not impossible by any means, but it would have been nice for SCH's to get it a bit earlier.
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  6. #26
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    Wadoka's Avatar
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    Eilis Tozet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    Yeah, I've seen SCH's struggle a bit healing the tank on the last Boss of Brayflox when the poison count hits 4 from repeated hits/vomit. It's not impossible by any means, but it would have been nice for SCH's to get it a bit earlier.
    The Tank isn't helping if they've taken 4 hits of the vomit poison. It's not that hard to dodge.

    And good old bottled NQ Antidote takes it off too. When I go for Brayflox runs I make sure I have a stash of Antidote because I can't be sure the party healer has Esuna, or knows to use it, or remembers to use it in the heat of battle.
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  7. #27
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    Menae Dulanis
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wadoka View Post
    The Tank isn't helping if they've taken 4 hits of the vomit poison. It's not that hard to dodge.

    And good old bottled NQ Antidote takes it off too. When I go for Brayflox runs I make sure I have a stash of Antidote because I can't be sure the party healer has Esuna, or knows to use it, or remembers to use it in the heat of battle.
    No, but I've had it stack to four on me via his melee. It's got a 45 second duration, and he refreshes more often than that. If you don't have antidote, well, uh... kite. That's what I did!
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  8. #28
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    Haprimac's Avatar
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    Fjrwn Ymir
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Endorendil View Post
    Sunken Temple w/o Esuna/Leeches is no fun. It's a royal pain that I have to level up CNJ/WHM in stead of just going in with SCH.
    Sunken Temple? Really? I don't really remember anything there that needs leeching. Brayflox last boss on the other hand /shudder. Especially if the tank can't/won't avoid dragon breath and move the dragon from the vomit. Makes my life as a scholar very painful.

    Cutters' Cry is another place where leeches is a must with the sandworm dot thing and Chimera's paralyzes/heavies if the party has trouble moving to the right place. :S
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  9. #29
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    Asakura Ny'en
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Give me Aetherflow for free MP, and Lustrate. Then you can have Esuna :P

    j/k
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  10. #30
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    Dubhghall Cionaodh
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Firetta View Post
    I was levelling my SCH via instances and had a guy tell me to esuna off the debuff the second boss gives you in Cutter's Cry. I was either 38 or 39, and he was shocked to find out that debuff removal was not part of my toolkit.
    Haha, I wonder if that was me? Cutter's Cry was the most obvious one to me, but there might be others.
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