Market Ward Madness

[GrimWarlock]

Selling items for 1 gil is actually selling at a loss, It's just not good business.

Using Alligator pears as an example, as these are actually listed on Ragnarok as:

Alligator pear 1 gil each, in a stack of 99, totaling 99 gil.

When these sell, a 5% tax is applied and you do not not receive the full 99 gil. These items will sell to an NPC for 1 gil each, with no tax, so you will receive the full amount and immediately.

If another player buys them, gil is merely transfered from one player to another, whereas selling to an NPC will actually bring more gil into the game!

So my question is... Why?

[Balaur]

And here I was thinking that if you go anywhere near the market wards in any town you get so much lag that crafting feels like a chore, slogging through molasses to make something, clikc on an NPC or the Bell, etc. Instead, people not realizing sell price versus consumer cost is skewed against their favor? That's just silly. Madness is forcing everyone to craft in one location in one part of the town and everyone else suffering for it. I would suggest another bell where one can craft. Maybe when housing is introduced.

[SabbaNoergi]

I've seen Boar Leather listed as 0.

[Comicbookguy]

Maybe they want to help people level up crafting instead of selling to NPC?

[Vindrax]

Or if they are trying to clear inventory space on their retainer, they can just sell from their inn room instead of having to run to an NPC vendor. I've come across that in a few cases, where's I'm clearing space and I would probably just throw the items away, but it's actually easier to sell it from the retainer interface than to discard it (because for some reason you can't "discard item" you have to manually move it to your inventory, close the window, then discard).

[GrimWarlock]

One or two reasonable points raised. Selling cheap to help crafters and clearing inventory space, I think I can handle those.

[Dorin]

People just don't know how to play the market. The only tactic they know is "undercutting". Like in this example:




For some odd reason, the guy indicated by the orange arrow undercut the other guy below him. I guess he was in a hurry to sell, what doesn't make sense is that he then proceeds to undercut himself, and then more people follow and keep undercutting the undercutter (red box).

So what I did was simple, buy everything in the Green box and flip it for 380, making profit from other people's darksteel ore.

[GrimWarlock]

People just don't know how to play the market. The only tactic they know is "undercutting". Like in this example:




For some odd reason, the guy indicated by the orange arrow undercut the other guy below him. I guess he was in a hurry to sell, what doesn't make sense is that he then proceeds to undercut himself, and then more people follow and keep undercutting the undercutter (red box).

So what I did was simple, buy everything in the Green box and flip it for 380, making profit from other people's darksteel ore.

Ah, someone with business sense!

[HurtigeKarl]

Ah, someone with business sense!

Depending on how often someone sells there, it is risky behaviour, since the miners are likely to have a hell lot more of ore than they put on the market. (I.e. the miners are pretending to have lower supply than they actually have, to get better price for the work they've already done) So if the miner sees that he has been bought out, he should immidietely put more and more ore into the market. On faster markets, you may have time enough to sell some stuff if not all before the miner puts more of his stack there.

[MorbidAngel]

People just don't know how to play the market. The only tactic they know is "undercutting". Like in this example:




For some odd reason, the guy indicated by the orange arrow undercut the other guy below him. I guess he was in a hurry to sell, what doesn't make sense is that he then proceeds to undercut himself, and then more people follow and keep undercutting the undercutter (red box).

So what I did was simple, buy everything in the Green box and flip it for 380, making profit from other people's darksteel ore.

Tell me about it. Farmed some boars hide last night just to come back to a 400 gil per decrease in the span of 45 min...