Players connot join the party while you are engaged in combat

[Duelle]

There will always be "what about [xyz] instance!" where being unable to invite is a hindrance, but overall the system was designed for specific purposes. We do appreciate the comments and feedback presented, and I'll be sure to pass these along as well.

All I can ask for is that the devs at least receive the suggestion about ghosting party members already in the group that get disconnected, so that when they return they can jump right into the fray. I am with the devs in being against swapping members during an encounter, though I do believe that has more to do with encounter design encouraging such a thing. At the same time, I also keep in mind the occasions when I run into someone also looking to kill quest mobs or signed up for behest that wants to team up for the mob after I've engaged an enemy in combat.

In WoW, I used to stop and invite people right in the middle of a fight just so that they got what they needed and it kept me from feeling like a jackass for killing something right in front of others that also needed to down the same target.

Something to also keep in mind is that if the focus of encounters are part of instanced content, the risk of bringing in outsiders and swapping members is considerably lower so long as you limit the instanced content to a certain number of players.

Most likely, I hope this isn't a sign of what we have to look forwards to, SE you best get a second team working now to transfer your assets over to UE3 now, because the current engine just isn't going to last you another 5 years.

Seeing the mess that Crystal Tools is capable of, I am in agreement with this statement. It could do more harm than good in the long run unless CS is perfected between now and the PS3 launch AND the current code for the game is fixed.

[Anty]

i think even a low budget mmo would have implemented the "ghost" grey-out feature by now (if not from the start).
It really is like alpha/beta. People write their asses off, make suggestions, and we get a "no" OR even better, the devs answer to threads like "i want nms to drop underwear". Ive seen far more important threads with a lot more great suggestions and a huge amount of people answering to that. Why no answer to these threads.

A thread like this should have been solved long ago. We can see abusive RMT everyday running around. And nobody does anything about them. The only people all these restrictions affect are the few gamers left. And what does SE? working on more nails for the coffin... I think its just pointless to write anything since you dont get proper answers (if any at all), they do whatever they want anyways... so its just wait and see and play other games that are more fun

[Ava]

If a player DCs, they should stay in the party, but to avoid being leeched, they will miss out on SP and Loot. Right now, that system isn't implemented. Main reason why I support their current system is because it can't be abused the way it was in FFXI. It possibly could be abuse, but the way it works right now would take chunks of time.

To the idea of keeping players within the party until they can log back on, well, imagine people force DCing just to chicken out of battles and claim loot. You can probably tell that I have a strong sense on how a community will be like and just how much they will abuse game mechanics just because they can.

Another solution to the problem of rotating members is instanced content and/or just dont make bosses that take an hour to kill. The problem was unique to FFXI only, I've never played another MMO that had the rotating members issue. If they keep the bulk of the content instanced (via guildleves or instanced dungeons) then it's a non factor, allow 1 party to enter and that's it.

It's not complicated. =/

[Renshi]

Ah, just for infos, how was Final Fantasy XI in this situation? Just to know

[Baelari]

If a player DCs, they should stay in the party, but to avoid being leeched, they will miss out on SP and Loot. Right now, that system isn't implemented. Main reason why I support their current system is because it can't be abused the way it was in FFXI. It possibly could be abuse, but the way it works right now would take chunks of time.

To the idea of keeping players within the party until they can log back on, well, imagine people force DCing just to chicken out of battles and claim loot. You can probably tell that I have a strong sense on how a community will be like and just how much they will abuse game mechanics just because they can.

There's practically no penalty for dying, so I see no incentive to chicken out by DCing; Especially since you can't see how much HP is remaining. If I were feeling like an exceptionally lazy jerkoff, I'd stay out of AoE range and run in at the end for loot, or perhaps just buff and cure myself and pretend I was fighting. The party leader should be able to kick me either way.

[Nuru]

Another solution to the problem of rotating members is instanced content and/or just dont make bosses that take an hour to kill. The problem was unique to FFXI only, I've never played another MMO that had the rotating members issue. If they keep the bulk of the content instanced (via guildleves or instanced dungeons) then it's a non factor, allow 1 party to enter and that's it.

It's not complicated. =/

That's what the Dev mean's when they say they do not have any content that calls for member rotation yet. Which the system is fine for now. The only other problem is not being able to invite while engaged to a mob. Whether its something they can throw in right away or if somewhere in the coding they'd have to change it up a bit. Again, as mentioned previously, it only takes 20 seconds to run away and disengage a mob in order to invite someone back, otherwise, this system was designed specifically so that you cannot kick and invite someone else before the mob is killed.

[Jhanaka]

Hello Everyone!

We are going to go ahead and lock this thread at this time as the conversation has been played out to the fullest. There are a number of attacks and off topic subject matter, as well, so the topic will be closed.

Thank you for your understanding and strong suggestions to improve our game.

-Senior Game Master Jhanaak

[Bayohne]

I know that the disconnection/re-joining party issue was a concern here, so I made sure to follow up with the development team and seek a comment. They said that they would like to do something in the event that a player is disconnected due to an error and would like to re-join the party, and are looking into adding a mechanism to address this.