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  1. #51
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    Flionheart's Avatar
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    Not being able to target and cure during Raise is stupid. It's not like that would make raise OP.

    If they can take damage, I should be able to prevent it.
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  2. #52
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    Choyi's Avatar
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    Choyi Baeldurn
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    Hyperion
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    Most other MMOs I've played have a short window of invincibility as you just get raised, this a very logical way of allowing the newly raised person get back in the fight, and we're talking of a 1-2 second window here, nothing major.

    Especialy in XIV where you first get an unexplained and uneccessary loading screen as you get raised, and as if being disorientated after that wasn't enough, you are unable to move and will die from the slighest bit of damage thrown your way.

    With animation lock being removed for most actions in 2.0 I can't understand why there is no invurnability frames for the raise animation, this needs to be looked into by the devs for sure.
    Either add a couple seconds of invincibility as you get raised, remove the loading screen/animation lock as you accept a raise, or a combination of the two.
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  3. #53
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumsterMKX View Post
    You dont know the fairies man.. I am telling you because I am a SCH facing this "Murder Faries".

    The actually got these small fairy stiletto hidden on them. During my CM and AK runs I come across them overcuring the tanks so they can tank the mobs for a cheap thrill or flying in front of a Garlean guard and stabbing him in the eyes!

    They seem to dance around heavy fighting so the blood actually gets onto them! You should see their faces man...

    I dare not tell them off for fear they might murder me in my sleep. If your PT SCH's fairy aggro mobs, don't blame him/her. PRAY FOR US!
    Not gonna lie. I'm legitimately afraid of the fairies. Maybe this is why I haven't unlocked scholar. >_>;; If I heal, it's on WHM. XD
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  4. #54
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    As an aside to this, I've noticed a lot of healers using Raise while standing in silly places. Since the target of Raise teleports to where the mage was when the spell was cast, it would serve them better to move to a relatively safer location for the job. As a White Mage myself it pains me that I need to remind my fellow healers to watch their positioning, but it still happens.

    I do agree though, the Raise delay can be a real pain. It does make you think twice about casting Raise, but not always in a good way.
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  5. #55
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    As an aside to this, I've noticed a lot of healers using Raise while standing in silly places. Since the target of Raise teleports to where the mage was when the spell was cast, it would serve them better to move to a relatively safer location for the job. As a White Mage myself it pains me that I need to remind my fellow healers to watch their positioning, but it still happens.
    On this topic...

    People raising... for the love of the twelve... AFTER you raise someone, please move a decent distance away from that spot. If you become the target of an AoE when your raised party member decides to raise, you are going to be the reason they die. (Example: Hydra, Chimera, Ifrit, etc)
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  6. #56
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varok899 View Post
    Can't be healed.
    This. So much this. You have to wait like 5 seconds after the animation is completed before you can heal the person.
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  7. #57
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    And was it also impossible to heal the person you just raised while said person was still capable of taking damage that they could not move out of because of the animation lock?

    This is not okay.
    Exactly !, the fact you can't heal and the person can take damage still just shows how broken it is lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    On this topic...

    People raising... for the love of the twelve... AFTER you raise someone, please move a decent distance away from that spot. If you become the target of an AoE when your raised party member decides to raise, you are going to be the reason they die. (Example: Hydra, Chimera, Ifrit, etc)
    Yup thats fine an all, but sooo many times the AoE has literally appeared as I have just cast the spell, not my fault if that happens, the only time someone can raise in Titan is during tumults for example and even then its hit and miss.

    What Am I supposed to say "vacate the area I'm raising someone", yea I don't see that working.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 09-28-2013 at 09:00 PM.

  8. #58
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Exactly !, the fact you can't heal and the person can take damage still just shows how broken it is lol.
    The best part about that? Fairies can heal the person, but it's nowhere near enough to save them if anything happens to be heading their way.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Exactly !, the fact you can't heal and the person can take damage still just shows how broken it is lol.


    Yup thats fine an all, but sooo many times the AoE has literally appeared as I have just cast the spell, not my fault if that happens, the only time someone can raise in Titan is during tumults for example and even then its hit and miss.

    What Am I supposed to say "vacate the area I'm raising someone", yea I don't see that working.
    I wasn't singling you out Jinko. Of course there are times where it won't work... And, raising someone in Titan is sketchy at best... because of the issues mentioned in this thread (can't heal for a good few seconds even if the person can take damage). I didn't mention Titan in my example because raising someone in Titan is very difficult. If they die pre-heart, maybe you'll be able to safely raise them... but if they die after the heart, you're probably better off not even wasting the MP.
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    I wasn't singling you out Jinko.
    Oh I know this, I was just replying to your post is all
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