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  1. #41
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    Nanga's Avatar
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    Rite Neow
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    Adamantoise
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    Oh come off it, the pet AI is sketchy at best. They run into mobs, forget to heal stuff, autocast things are terrible times.
    This is not an AI thing, however. It's a flag, to know when a spell is effective or not. It knows when it's a good idea to cure someone of poison, because the person is poisoned. It knows when it's a good idea to heal someone, because they are damaged. If not, the pet would just be randomly spamming cures and heals for no reason at all.
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  2. #42
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    Nala Valsharess
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanga View Post
    This is not an AI thing, however. It's a flag, to know when a spell is effective or not. It knows when it's a good idea to cure someone of poison, because the person is poisoned. It knows when it's a good idea to heal someone, because they are damaged. If not, the pet would just be randomly spamming cures and heals for no reason at all.
    The pet AI is super basic, all they do is heal when people are missing health and keep their buffs on cooldown in combat.

    Most people manually control their faeries due to how badly SE implemented pets, it's a stretch to say that you should be able to heal people when raised because pets attempt to.

    If Healer/bard limit break 3 can pull everyone up and heal them to full then it's clear the window of being unhealable is intentional. All healers get access to swiftcast to instantly res people and summoners can do raise in combat whenever they feel like it, there has to be harsh penalties associated with bringing people back into the fight.

    You are forced to think when accepting a raise and that's the way it should stay.
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    Last edited by Valsh; 09-28-2013 at 11:59 AM.

  3. #43
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    Naunet's Avatar
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    but please, please, please make us capable of curing someone the second they can take damage.
    This is absolutely the biggest problem with Raise.
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  4. #44
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    ForteXX's Avatar
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    Fhorte Dakwhil
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Varok899 View Post
    Can't be healed.
    Not gonna correct you on this.


    NVM. Cant be targetted, can be healed.
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  5. #45
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    Dirac Quin
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Seems odd for them to combine tractor and raise, I guess that's why there's 'loading'-like screen as tractor has in XI. But, what I really want to know is: Where's the darn reraise spell and items?!
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  6. #46
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-Xero View Post
    Well I know there were/are a lot of big AoE moves in FFXI but in most encounters they aren't/weren't a one hit kill. I meant more like FFXI as a whole wasn't designed around these big ol' AoE moves all over the place.
    spike flail , and meteor , breaths...claws atacks, and the never old -AGA III-IV that wiped full alliances :P

    lol when u get raised in FFXI u are weakened and every aoe is a 1 hit kill. Remember that u have 25% of your max hp until wears off . 1000 hp in weakened is 250hp.
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 09-28-2013 at 01:19 PM.

  7. #47
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    Alpheus's Avatar
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    Alphyn Vyrs
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-Xero View Post
    Well I know there were/are a lot of big AoE moves in FFXI but in most encounters they aren't/weren't a one hit kill. I meant more like FFXI as a whole wasn't designed around these big ol' AoE moves all over the place.
    Oh.... yea I can see that but they went pretty crazy with it for the last 3 years almost everything worth fighting at one point had a "lolulose card", and in there you didn't even have a chance at dodging mobs home in on you like a heat seeking missle XD
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  8. #48
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    Sebelain Vernet
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I really like the communication required to raise well in a party and the challenge with it. In Titan phase 3 for example, it gets pretty intense and challenging !

    Besides, it's necessary to do what you need to do in order to nullify the negative effect of death.
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  9. #49
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    Oh come off it, the pet AI is sketchy at best. They run into mobs, forget to heal stuff, autocast things are terrible times.
    I can't tell you how many times I've seen a Fairy try to MPK a group by healing the tank the second the tank pulls. XD I'm not sure how Fairy AI works since I haven't touched scholar. I'm not sure if there's a way to make the fairy 'passive' or not like there is with smn.
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  10. #50
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    HumsterMKX's Avatar
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Masamune
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    I can't tell you how many times I've seen a Fairy try to MPK a group by healing the tank the second the tank pulls. XD I'm not sure how Fairy AI works since I haven't touched scholar. I'm not sure if there's a way to make the fairy 'passive' or not like there is with smn.
    You dont know the fairies man.. I am telling you because I am a SCH facing these "Murder Faries".

    They actually got these small fairy stiletto hidden on them. During my CM and AK runs I come across them overcuring the tanks so they can tank the mobs for a cheap thrill or flying in front of a Garlean guard and stabbing him in the eyes!

    They seem to dance around heavy fighting so the blood actually gets onto them! You should see their faces man...

    I dare not tell them off for fear they might murder me in my sleep. If your PT SCH's fairy aggro mobs, don't blame him/her. PRAY FOR US!
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    Last edited by HumsterMKX; 09-28-2013 at 04:43 PM.
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