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    Byregot's Blessing?

    Can any level 50 carpenters confirm that this ends the Inner Quiet effect? And does the +% remain after you use Byregot's Blessing the first time?

    Example (theoretical):

    On a synthesis, I use Inner Quiet then use Hasty Touch 5 times. This should put Byregot's at 100% + (20% x 5) = 200%.

    When I use Byregot's the first time, does the efficiency % drop back down? Or does it remain at 200% until the synthesis is complete/failed?
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    Using Byregot's Blessing removes Inner Quiet, even if the Touch fails (due to no Steady Hands).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehwyn View Post
    Using Byregot's Blessing removes Inner Quiet, even if the Touch fails (due to no Steady Hands).
    Thanks Reh. Does that mean the efficiency % resets as well? Or does it stay at 200% after 5 touches with IQ up?
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    Bryegots/Rumination are to be used at the end of your synthing rotation, depending on whether you need more CP or the finishing HQ touches. They remove inner quiet, and thus all benefits associated with inner quiet. (Such as bryegots quality increase)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laryndra View Post
    Bryegots/Rumination are to be used at the end of your synthing rotation, depending on whether you need more CP or the finishing HQ touches. They remove inner quiet, and thus all benefits associated with inner quiet. (Such as bryegots quality increase)
    Essentially this. The efficiency of Byregot's is based on your Inner Quiet at the time you use Byregot's. Typically, on any serious synthesis I'll set it up so my last touch action is a Great Strides + Byregot's for massive quality.
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    Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like its only real use is GS + BB as the last touch action, which is still nice. It'll be a cheaper, more efficient, GS + ST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kismet View Post
    Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like its only real use is GS + BB as the last touch action, which is still nice. It'll be a cheaper, more efficient, GS + ST.
    Yeah, that's what it's for. With Hasty spam, you'll have 1000 control and touch for 600% efficiency on that pop, though. Even Normal status with Ingenuity will put you at 100% HQ on anything. The only drawback is that you don't have the Rumination buffer anymore, so you're pretty much stuck finishing your synth as soon as you hit Byregot. Small price to pay, I say.
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    I shouldn't be giving the secret away, but...

    Innovation + Byregot > Great Strides + Byregot

    You get 2 more chances to raise IQ stacks (at +50% control) while receiving 3 chances at a Good/Excellent status for Byregot
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjk View Post
    I shouldn't be giving the secret away, but...

    Innovation + Byregot > Great Strides + Byregot

    You get 2 more chances to raise IQ stacks (at +50% control) while receiving 3 chances at a Good/Excellent status for Byregot
    I definitely disagree here. First, you're talking about raising more IQ stacks where that requires Durability and not CP -- GS setup could use the exact same number of Hasty swipes if Dura permits.

    Thing is, Innovation procs off base control. If you've hit 10 touches, you're at +200% already, which is a 16.67% relative bonus. That means your Innovation+Byregot is 175% if you assume Good shows up, while GS+Byregot floors at 200%. Because Byregot is 300% touch at that point, GS with 2 other hasty swings (70%) is an average of 740% efficiency. Innovation with 2 Hasty and assuming good on Byregot would give you 688.33% efficiency -- a significantly lower number.

    //EDIT: Note that I assumed linearity on control to quality function -- that's not totally correct, but within the range observed, it's a good approximation.
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    Last edited by Gamemako; 09-25-2013 at 05:50 AM.

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    Steady Hand + Great Strides + Innovation + Ingenuity + Byregots = almost 1500 quality in 2 stars recipes.
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