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    Ventusinvictus's Avatar
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    Ventus Invictus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 70

    Paladin Guide, Why Enmity and Shield Oath Are Broken Currently

    http://ventusinvictus.blogspot.com/2...din-guide.html

    I have delayed posting info for a month on Enmity testing because there are factors I just cannot account for.

    In small detail, I generate more threat than my lalafel friend (and we aren't talking a sliver on the threat meter, we are talking 25% or so).

    Same Items, no Buffs, switching who takes swing, different abilities.

    He had to have 21 STR more than I in order take hate over me using the same actions.

    This baseline issue has occured with multiple races, even my own race.

    I believe it may be related to some RNG factor on the character, the god we choose, birthdate, some other stat.

    Please review the testing and find an error, otherwise SE has screwed the pooch hard.
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    Tanaya Makers
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Bumping because it's a shame this doesn't have people talking.
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    Sirtenant Msterofspce
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 37
    Very interesting. Bumping because I want to see if Square addresses these findings as "Statistically Significant".
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    Mishka Liadain
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm not understanding what is happening in the "Testing" section.... did one person pull by flashing? both flashing? any auto-attacks used? if you're just walking up to aggro did the aggro go on the first person, or immediately jump to the second every time without auto-attacking? full rotations on all mobs?

    ...maybe it is obvious to most, but after looking at the section it wasn't quite clear to me what was actually happening to you guys, other than mobs do not like cat tails :P
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    Hola Roxanne
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    Aegis
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    just took a look at the pics

    didnt read your blog much

    just want to say

    i think

    the extra enmity provided by shield oath doesnt necessarily mean it will let you generate more hate with it than without.

    its there because it is to counter the output dmg you lost from dmg reduction effect you get from shield oath.
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    The Brute
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    Marauder Lv 50
    So Paladin's are now saying their class is broken? I love it lol.
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Brute View Post
    So Paladin's are now saying their class is broken? I love it lol.
    Oh, he's not saying they class is broken. He's saying one of their abilities looks like it's not functioning consistently or as intended, aka broken. There's nothing wrong with that.
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    Eightbit Ho
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Oh, he's not saying they class is broken. He's saying one of their abilities looks like it's not functioning consistently or as intended, aka broken. There's nothing wrong with that.
    Just going to quote this as some people can't seem to grasp that a possibly bugged or broken skill is not the same as complaining about a class being broken/useless.
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    Tanaya Makers
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Oh, he's not saying they class is broken. He's saying one of their abilities looks like it's not functioning consistently or as intended, aka broken. There's nothing wrong with that.
    Not just that, read more closely. It looks like Enmity as a whole is broken. Even with the same stats, Ventus is getting a considerable amount of threat over his buddy PLD.

    Should also note neither of them had Shield Oath.
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    Last edited by Tanaya; 09-25-2013 at 09:36 AM.

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    Altimis Farron
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    Aegis
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Yes Yes keep get SE attention

    So they can revamp (rebalanced) Tank rolls

    Keep get SE attention man!
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