Incorrect NPC dialog: local leves NPC

[SuzakuCMX]

You don't retain local leves, though. They simply vanish from your log.

As I said, once you know about the 36 hours your brain "auto-corrects" the statement to mean what it intends to mean, but if you don't know about the 36 hours (whoever that may be) it's misleading.

Yeah I have no idea why the heck they even vanish.

But the 36 hour part is not related. It doesn't say anything about whether or not you can turn them in or not for more afterwards, that is an assumption. All it says is you can have 8 at a time, which is true for regional leves. And I really do wish they let you keep the Local Leves until you go turn them in after 36 hours.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

You guys do not get it because you are overly thinking about it. You are taking what the npc said too literally. Also the way you worded the child birth thing was pretty harsh. The term "at a time" is a vague phrase, with various meanings. It can be consinously or simultaniously, but it also mean per occurance.
I'll take the movie rental again. See you can rent 3 movies right after you finish the last three, or when ever you feel like it. You still can only rent 3 movies out at a time. Vaguely, that is saying whenever you want to rent out a movie, it is only 3.

Npc do not really state stuff based on earth time. They go by vague terms. If they did use eath time, it gets people more confused. Games do not show everything. I can name the countless quests in ffxi that do not stated the japanese 12am wait befor continuing on. Same for the same quest. It don;t tell you to wait 3 hours for the great katana.

Nor does the dark knight quest tell you to kill 100 mobs.

[Jibe]

Kilta, the point is, if you didn't know in advance that you could only get more leves after the 36 hour reset, you would have assumed that you could pick up 8 more right away as well. A new player is not armed with the knowledge of the reset, thus, regardless of if the npc's grammar is "technically" correct it is still misleading. Grammar can be correct and also misleading at the same time.

If the way an NPC says something is misleading new players, change it. They've changed NPC speak before, they can do it again. Quit getting stuck on if it is "technically" correct grammar. It's obviously misleading and needs to be changed.

[SuzakuCMX]

Kilta, the point is, if you didn't know in advance that you could only get more leves after the 36 hour reset, you would have assumed that you could pick up 8 more right away as well. A new player is not armed with the knowledge of the reset, thus, regardless of if the npc's grammar is "technically" correct it is still misleading. Grammar can be correct and also misleading at the same time.

If the way an NPC says something is misleading new players, change it. They've changed NPC speak before, they can do it again. Quit getting stuck on if it is "technically" correct grammar. It's obviously misleading and needs to be changed.

I wouldn't say it's misleading, I'd say you assumed more than what was stated and were angry when your assumption was wrong.

However if they added something that said "you can only obtain 8 Regional and 8 Local guildleves every 36 hours (earth time)" to the first leve (and also make it required, since it is what you'll be doing most of the time) as a tutorial message, it would help. In fact the game might say that but I didn't bother to read it >.> The game needs more in-game information regardless...it's nearly impossible to do anything outside of grind without relying on your linkshell and a database.

[Jibe]

I wouldn't say it's misleading, I'd say you assumed more than what was stated and were angry when your assumption was wrong.

However if they added something that said "you can only obtain 8 Regional and 8 Local guildleves every 36 hours (earth time)" to the first leve (and also make it required, since it is what you'll be doing most of the time) as a tutorial message, it would help. In fact the game might say that but I didn't bother to read it >.> The game needs more in-game information regardless...it's nearly impossible to do anything outside of grind without relying on your linkshell and a database.

I'm not the OP, I've been playing since 1st alpha, I know all about the reset, but I'm trying to see it through the eyes of a player that does not know about the reset. The only thing I'm angry about is the nitpicking that's going on here. Thread done as far as I'm concerned here.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

That woyuld be too much text and confusing anyway, hence the vagueness. Games do not give all the info out, that is how we break the ask. we ask questions.
Again like in ffxi... Zeid does not tell you directly "go kill 100 mobs" he states kill mobs until the weapons thirst is quenched (or something to that effect) There is no indication on when this objective is completed either unless you run to bearduex.

Same thing with most other quests with wait times. You are not told how long to wait just to wait. That is how video games are they make you think. Or in mmo get you to talk to people. If mmo gave out all the info via npc there woyuld be no need to talk to other players, unlwess we needed help to complete said quest.