Is this bannable? I got reported for...

[Tigerwong]

GUYS YOU BETTER HOPE YOUR SCREEN DOESN'T STOP WORKING ANYTIME WHEN YOU ARE PLAYING BECOZ, AW EW OO, THAT GUY IS UNATTEEEEEEEENDED PLAYEEEE.

[Yuufarlc]

http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...6&id=5382&la=1
Under the section titled "Activities that destroy game balance":

There is the definitive answer, yes you can get banned, end the thread. Simply not responding to a GM whisper is grounds for "actioning", regardless if you macro'ing, botting or just plain ignorant

[Tomumu]

This is the tool that I reported yesterday. There were 5 people standing in the same spot legitimately trying to farm, either this guy was botting or using an incredibly efficient macro as he was targeting and attacking creatures before anyone else could, even though some of us were sitting there spamming Tab+Attack. The reason why I say it was efficient (if it`s not a bot) is because his character was periodically turning around to target creatures behind him and attacking them.

Botting or not, you deserve to get banned. You were standing there for hours taking farm from people playing legitimately. If you want to be cheap, that`s fine, but do something that doesn`t affect the rest of the players, like GATHERING. As someone else asked, if you need to ask whether you could get banned for it, you shouldn`t be doing it. You tosser.

[Mychael]

Since we're arguing semantics, "unattended" is pretty vague. If I'm reading a book while still pressing buttons (because crafting can be that mind-numbing), am I violating the ToS? If you continue playing while you take a phone call? Some of these definitions are insanely broad. However, "unattended" is a word someone pulled out of their arse earlier in this thread..

The actual verbiage is (and traditionally has been) automation, i.e. requiring no human interaction, or self-playing. In this case, it specifically says "automation software."

2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

It's definitely not "automation software," which seems to be the argument in this thread. What it could be considered is "hardware designed to modify[...]gameplay." The real issue, if someone wants to argue semantics, is whether not a controller/keyboard that can repeat keystrokes is "authorized." There is no list of "authorized devices," so who's to say it is(n't)?

[Matsume]

Didn't even see the rep post

Provided you are not away from the computer and able to respond to a GM if necessary, then it is highly unlikely that it would be determined that you are guilty of an absentee play violation.

[texhnolyze]

if using in-game macros is considered botting for some people here, then SE just have to get rid of it for good

i use a macro which consist of 4 buffs
while my char executing the macro, i can look at my phone to check things
is that unattended play?
if yes, then i'm screwed :/

[MaFi0s0]

Hello!

This thread was brought to my attention from the community team so that a response could be provided from the Game Master perspective.

LGM Enkrateia

Thanks for the response.

The reason why I say it was efficient (if it`s not a bot) is because his character was periodically turning around to target creatures behind him and attacking them.

I remember you. I was turning 180degrees because I specifically positioned my camera so that it showed 3 spawn points for the mobs, I wasnt targetting out of view.

[RyuujinZERO]

tl;dr version:
@OP: Semantics aside, you were by definition botting. Have a nice day.

Long version:
"Bots" used by RMT's are nothing more than characters being run on a script. Consider the two situations and tell me how they are different:

- A botter has a character run a macro that enables them to farm mobs without any input, for their personal gain. This is bannable

- You had a character running a macro that enabled them to farm mobs without any input, for your personal gain. You ask if this is bannable

I think you should have you answer

[rabbitzero]

if using in-game macros is considered botting for some people here, then SE just have to get rid of it for good

I'm going to go back to WoW here for a moment, but there was a point when you could basically write add-ons that almost automated healing and decursing. One button raiding for healers. Spam it, and it would select who needed healing based on who had what health in the party and what spell to use. Another button to spam which would see if people were cursed and if so, remove it. I knew people who raided vanilla while watching movies and hitting two buttons over and over. Blizzard changed that after a while, big time. Square could easily decide the macro abilities have automated too much, and change it.

[Macka]

tl;dr version:
"Bots" used by RMT's are nothing more than characters being run on a script. Consider the two situations and tell me how they are different:

- A botter has a character run a macro that enables them to farm mobs without any input, for their personal gain. This is bannable

- You had a character running a macro that enabled them to farm mobs without any input, for your personal gain. You ask if this is bannable

So you missed the part when he do input the macro command everytime he claimed a mob he just doing it without looking at the screen.

I think you should have you answer

So, I guess you miss the part when he does in fact Input the macro command everytime he claims a mob, he just do it without watching the screen. I guess Im cheating too since I use macros why I watch tv also.