I'm done with Titan.

[SnickleWhiskers]

I bet no one remembers stacking eruptions when you couldn't stun ifrit.

You know how bad Ifrit would be with the pugs these days if you couldnt stun eruption?

[Devilair]

I bet no one remembers stacking eruptions when you couldn't stun ifrit.

You know how bad Ifrit would be with the pugs these days if you couldnt stun eruption?

it would still be easy, people are just lazy and expect the tank to stun them.

Anyways, it's kinda of a downer that fight to be hard have to rely on oneshot mechanics. On that SE has only to learn from WoW. And truth be told i hope they learn to pick the best from the raid mechanics in wow, cuz i love this game, but as it stands now the best fight in the game it's garuda imo, mechanics wise, the rest are a bunch of "OHLOLONESHOT" crap.

Before the white knights come in to the rescue, i think titan is bs cuz of the server lag. You can't demand ABSOLUTE precision in movement with a .3s delay from the server. It just doesn't work, you can work around it, but its not supposed to be like that, right now titan is BROKEN. Garuda on the other hand require positioning without making it just obnoxious, requires dps and add managament, all in a easy to figure, challenging and rewarding to master fight.

My two gils

/inb4 stfu nooblol

[Tupsi]

Just saying

Incorrect, but bashing consoles is the cool thing to do by PC gamers.

[Ceol]

Just saying, the ps3 is underpowered and lags a lot in the encounter so not only are they trying to master the fight mechanics, but they have to do it while battling their underperforming systems which just adds to the problem. Then all the People on PC's have to deal with the people in their group complaining about the lag or using their ps3/lag as an excuse to why they fail.

Then people wonder why PC guys hate the ps3 players so much... It's an unnecessary level of complexity to an already complex system and hopefull the ps4 release will alleviate some of this. But there will be people playing this game in ps3 5+ years from now because they don't want to upgrade.

Same problem FFXI had with ps2 players.

I just... what? I'm always the last one standing in Titan HM. I've checked people, and 9 out of 10 times, it's a PC player. That's because PC is the more popular console for this game by a large margin (80% PC / 20% PS3.)

You should definitely keep an eye on that irrational stereotyping. I've heard it can grow out of control.

[Jynxii]

I'm bad at SCH and i admit it. But do I condemn these bads? No, I try not to prejudge anyone either. If I'm in a dungeon with someone who's playing poorly, I offer advice, in a friendly manner... Its just most of the time I'm met with responses similar to use. Over defensive, high horse, insulting, calling of elitism, etc.

I just though I'd highlight this point. To make things easier, I'll just refer to the two 'groups' as the 'haves' and 'have nots'. You can apply this to clearing Titan, or being 'good' at your class or whatever, it doesn't really matter. The important part is that, whether you like it or not, there are two very different groups with a lot of variability in both.

Yes, there are definitely 'haves' that are complete douchebags with poor social skills that will get up someone for the smallest mistake, however there are also those with enough knowledge and social experience to realise people won't get better by shouting at them. Adversely, there are 'have nots' that are humble and take advice on and actually improve, then you have 'have nots' that are as the above quote points out; overly defense, rude and think their shit doesn't stink (delusional have nots? same traits could be applied to delusional haves).

Ultimately it is about attitude. Most Titan threads are "OMG this is bollocks, Titan is IMPOSSIBLE, game is broken" with the occasional "There is nothing I can do about it; anyone that has beaten Titan is ignorant/elitist". Even with this instant negative grounding for the thread, some of these so called 'elitist' attempt to offer advice (generally not in the friendliest manner since the thread is already grounded in negatively/set up for an argument) and is often ignored. Of course you have your players that come in with "Learn2Play", but if you worked in a store and someone came in carrying on about how cooking instant noodles is bullcrap and impossible because they can't do it, then when you told them how, they spat it back in your face and called you an elitist, how would you react? What happens when this happens over and over again? Eventually you're conditioned to responding with 'you're bad, learn2instantnoodle', because even if there is a chance the response is different, based on past experience it is going to be the same.

I personally haven't seen a thread that is legitamately asking for advice for Titan (or otherwise) where the OP actually gives detailed information about what is going wrong, asking how they can fix it, and actually taking on advice. There was one thread where someone gave a pretty detailed scenario, however it was laden (and even stated) with undertones of "this is impossible to avoid, it is all RNG whether you live or die", and even after been given advice on how to avoid/improve the scenario, they completely ignored it, and repeated the scenario as a reason 'why' the fight was impossible and RNG based.

TL;DR: There are poor attitudes on both sides, and they feed off of each other. Generally speaking, the 'have nots' are no more victims than the 'haves' are, unless you want to class them as being victims to their own attitudes, and thus the responses they bring on themselves in turn. The stereotype, or human belief that those with less are the victims, and those successful or with more are the bad guys has no place in an MMO. The 'haves' didn't get there by exploiting or using the time/labour of others, they got there through hard work and dedication (and maybe a bit of luck).

Edit: Err.. that ended up being longer than I expected. If you actually read the entire post, I commend you.

[jcw005]

In Mother Russia, Titan is done with you!

Oh, no wait...

[AccountBanned]

I find the Titan fight refreshing. I'm the kind of person that isn't discouraged by a difficult boss but rather pumps me up to get what I need to beat it. I'm currently in denial about needing a full set of darklight gear to approach him, but I'm thinking more and more that it needs to happen.

It's funny though how the game went from insanely easy to - Ifrit HM somewhat easy... Garuda HM a pain in the rear... Titan HM ....speechless....

One thing I'll say though...the difficult part of this isn't so much the fight but the fact that there needs to be constant communication with a game that doesn't have a built in chat system. I am sure I look like an absolute tool to my wife who is sitting there playing a PS3 game and has the laptop next to me with Raidcall on/headphones so that I can cooperate with my team during this fight.... All games that require cooperation need to have voice chat... Call of duty would never have been so successful if you could only type.

[PikachuLink]

Yeah I gave up on Dealing with Titan as well. It really is just a horribly designed fight. I paid for a run because I pay a sub to see content not be blocked by 1 horrible fight. I almost quit because the fight made me so angry figured 700k isn't a lot of Gil for me anyways

[Darte]

Yeah I gave up on Dealing with Titan as well. It really is just a horribly designed fight. I paid for a run because I pay a sub to see content not be blocked by 1 horrible fight. I almost quit because the fight made me so angry figured 700k isn't a lot of Gil for me anyways

Have fun paying somebody to see coil. Seriously though, if you thought Titan HM was blocking you, you are not prepared for coil.

[Ceol]

Have fun paying somebody to see coil. Seriously though, if you thought Titan HM was blocking you, you are not prepared for coil.

He might not want to do Coil. I just beat Titan HM for my WHM relic and I don't really have any intention of doing it until a while later, if at all.

Titan HM is required for your relic weapon. Coil is a dungeon made to keep the super endgame-focused players something to do while they get new content available.