I'm done with Titan.

[Uveck]

The FATE system is not responsible for it. The players themselves are.

How are the players responsible for AOE lag? If I get hit when I'm out of the AOE that's not my fault. That's the fault of the Devs. They even acknowledge that it's an issue, yet they don't fix it. So I get hit by abilities when I'm out of the range and I leave DF because I'm holding group back and I get punished by a 15 minute penalty. Really FUN Devs. Create practice instances where players can learn to dodge moves. That way players who experience the (OUT OF AOE BUT STILL HIT GLITCH) can learn the fight better. Sucks that for some reason I'm affected by this so that I have to be a better player than 95% of the community just to "be on par with their skill on their screen."

[Maddox]

How about we don't regionalize servers, oh wait.

Before all that happened in 1.0 I did most of my groups for ifrit extreme with JP's, JP /shout are far better than NA /shout groups on average, and I don't know a single word of JP. JP's respect and remember people who can play well, if you play badly never expect another invite because the word will get around. Based on the amount you wine, you prob be bad.

Its funny how I simply put what I have experienced so far and the first reply is, you're a *whiner* so you're probably bad.

Thankfully I know I'm not bad, however thanks for proving why getting a decent group is hard, you're a prime example.

Oh and you spelled wine as in the alcohol. So yea, guess I'am a bad wine head, it tastes pretty good when sipping it.

[Nonlinear314]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5g4TM1fkCg

Working as intended! Stop being bad and stuff!

[Quor]

Out of curiosity, how hard is he for Tanks? ...Do you even really need to move around every 4 seconds? I admit I'm a healer, I'm usually focused more on what I'm dodging and what the tank's HP is at rather than what the tank is actually doing.

I imagine Garuda is the much more difficult fight for tanks.

Garuda is more challenging to actually pull off, between positioning, dodging Slipstream, picking her up after she summons sisters....it's good fun. I like Garuda as a tank. That entire fight is very dynamic, and if I fail I can usually point to something ("I wasn't quick enough to dodge that Slipstream" or "The blm was out of position and ate an aoe").

But that's what I love about Garuda as a warrior tank; I have control over my own fate more often than not. Yes, I'm still reliant on healers and what not, but not in the way Titan is....if I have less than 4500 life when we break heart, there's a very good chance MB will just wipe me, and there's nothing I can do about it. As a warrior in a mix of hoplite, af2 and DL gear, there's nothing I can do but get more DL/af2 gear or re-roll PLD to tank that fight. There isn't any reaction I can have to dodge MB, or a combination of skills I can use that will effectively mitigate it's damage more than once every two minutes (which, sadly, Titan uses MB faster than my skills cool down). It's frustrating because I have no control over my fate like I do in Garuda or Ifrit.

And that is why Titan is a bad fight for tanks.

[Rekujen]

Difficulty is good... all this frustration you're feeling? it's good.

I mean seriously, why are you questioning it? the fight is all in the name... "Hard" Mode.

You'll get it eventually and when you do, it'll feel amazing.

If they nerf the fight because of cry babies on the forums, that'll be one huge disappointing decision.

[Rostum]

It's not so much nerfing the fight, it's fixing the damn server latency/lag issues. It's hard to actually play properly when attacks are already executed before they even show up my screen. In most cases I'm out of an attack range for 3-4 seconds and I still get hit. I never had this problem with Tera, which is even more action-based.

[DiceMan]

I enjoy Titan a lot I haven't been doing it as much as some. Next time you pug it in DF ask people how many times they've tried to beat it. I've gotten answers in the 100's. All I've really noticed is a lot of crying and complaining and blaming in Titan. Last group I was with a FC that pugged it with two healers. In the beginning he kept calling out his FC buddy's all the DD for not focusing enough he said this a lot was annoying and by the end he blamed me and the other healer. I will be honest tho by the 15th wipe I was spacing out and getting hit with the occasional boss attack. I never called him or his buddies out when there would be multiple people getting hit with stuff and dying to quick. Even with that said I enjoyed the entire fight and all the wipes. I think most people need to realize that Coil will literally take a solid 8 man group to beat with the way its lock is designed. Good luck figuring out who gets to go within your FC. Take your time enjoy the fight its not like there's tons more end game to do. AK speed runs with your Relic weapon?

I will say that adding a weapon to the actual fight is not good for business casuals will want that weapon and if they cant acquire it they will quit and not sub. Yes I understand a lot will say c'ya but SE wants that business plain and simple.

Also a little FYI Titan will mostly likely get nerfed. Disclaimer just my opinion that it will get the nerf gun. So enjoy fighting it while its hard and not easy mode.
Hard as in takes team work being flawless the whole fight etc.

[Zebyxus]

...

If they nerf the fight because of cry babies on the forums, that'll be one huge disappointing decision.

I've read a good portion of this topic, enough to see that SE will do exactly that given time. Thanks to Activision Blizzard's handling of the World of Warcraft franchise, MMO players just seem to want everything handed to them on a plate. I'll admit I tried to do Garuda without being geared, more to test a theory that the HM's can be done with quest reward gear with one or two DL's given from dungeons required in story progression, yeah, it was hard but still I got torn a new one, not for not researching the fight and trying, but because one guy started crying that the group wasn't burning Garuda as fast as he/she wanted.

The real problem is defining the lines that SE will not cross or compromise on and really weeding out the morons that will ruin the game for their 'honour', or rather, bragging rights for killing an otherwise great game.

edit: I know not all players want it made easier, nor am I pointing fingers, getting this out of the way before someone cries about it.

[Evangela]

The worst thing is it's not under my control. I know everything about this fight. I know what I have to do in every phase but actually I can't do shit because no matter how I try I'll get hit by some of his moves.

they're selling this game in Europe, Asia, and Oceania but people from those regions can't play? how is that fair?