JP Community of this game

[Churchill]

If you play flawlessly at all times, you never have anything to fear.

[IndigoHawk]

FFXIV unfortunately has some racism in the online community. Some racists view the Japanese players and servers as the ideal, and discriminate against other regions.

Japanese culture is socially polite. People say "hello", "i'm sorry", "thanks for playing", etc. Some regions don't have that type of etiquette, but everywhere has good and bad people.

My experience with DF on Cactuar (an NA server) has been pretty good. Many people are pleasant, coordinate, have a good time, and forgive mistakes. A few people yell, get impatient, won't coordinate, and rage quit. Overall the community is pretty good, better than I expected.

Of course, with the relaunch, the community is fairly young. Most MMO communities start out friendly. Sometimes elitism develops, and the community goes downhill. Some MMOs build a better community as they mature, but almost always you get a fun community at the beginning when everyone is new and learning.

[Mistz]

This is not surpriseing, as it was the same in FFXI, you knew if you hit a JP party, u hit jackpot when it came to content or exp grinding.
Only mistake new MMO's have these days, is not makeing mix servers, but then again i dont blame them for inplementing it, since out of 6 years in ffxi i start to understand why the JP people want peace and be able to play with people who show same respect as themself.

I startet on a EU server myself cause of some friends, otherwise i would had done the same and start on a JP server, just cause i know how alot of them are mentally compared to some others...

That said keep in mind not all NA people are ignorant bastard who see themself above evryone else, nor Europeans for that matter.
But i must say can i avoid americans i would do it anytime any day, i had my share with how the majority of them where in FFXI.
But OP this wont change for a lifetime, JP people are raise diffrently, see life in another way.

Had long talks with alot of them, why they tend to be so friendly and helpfull to people beeing complete A-holes to them, mostly is there culture " keep in mind not all JP are friendly lol, all countries have there share of idiots"
But from most of them, i got more or less same response, they are raiset to try help people if they can, even it dosent benefit them or please them to do so, that's why you see most of them do something if you ask them.

RL story from ffxi.
Was lvling my carpenter up, and there was this lovely fishing rod, callt lu'shangs fishing rod wich where beast to lvl with, since lvling in ffxi took ages when it came to crafting, and if you broke your craft you useally tend to lose all your items, but the love about this Lu' shang rod was, even if the craft broke, you could not lose it, so you could pretty much start repairing a broken Lu'shang rod at a very early lvl, knowing it would fail but give you alot skill up, now the sad part was at that time where i bought it, i had probally grindet for almost a year to afford it so expensive it was, a few hours evryday.
So you can imagen how static i was once i got my hands on it, after getting it and haveing stars in my eyes, i went on the ferry from selbina to where all the people where fishing, in hope someone would break there Lu'shang fishing rod so i could trade mine with theres.
Lucky for me after 20min wait someone did.
sadly ffxi had 1 flaw, if someone tried to cast spells on you pre crafting your item, it would sometimes break the craft immiedatly and make you lose evrything before the craft even startet.
This Paladin NA saw i was shouting for a broken one, and pretty much campet me on the boat in the background, once i was about to do it, he stood with his friend and as soon they saw me start my crafting they healet the hell out me as much they could.
Mission succed for those 2, and i manage to lose something i had workt for, for about 1 year.
To my surprise all i got in whispers, was HAHAHA OWNED NOOB, etc.
So i put in a ticket to the GM's, saying what happend and told them to read chat since this wasent and accident but very intendet, but all i got back was sorry we cant do anything about it.
So i was pretty down, and pretty much felt like uninstalling after loseing all my money on that thing, i tho would be bullet proof " yes my own bad for not crafting in my mog house where i am safe, but sometimes you just dont expect the wourse of people"
So just as i where about to log out, a JP tarutaru walks over to me and trade, beeing a bit confused i just presst ok, and he put in a brand new Lu'shang rod.
I told him no no i cant take it, and with the poor english he could, he said yes please, following up with, please nice evryone help all, no do paladin other, and logt off.
Think i scoutet for this tarutaru like 2 months evryday and never saw him online again.

[Hysterior]

But nice try on fitting my XI experience with Some JP players for mind numbing exp grind; to the hardest event in FFXIV

Of course I was exaggerating, but I guess you can get my point
The auto-function is limited and it can be frustrating having one member who cannot understand the rest of you
I probably don't need to make you a cross-cultural class, everybody know that Japanese people search synergy and group harmony. And by definition, foreigners (being a gaijin i think I have a very good experience about this pretty much every single day), we are more complicated to deal with and it can be bothersome to include us.

But no misunderstanding, there are some extremely open Japanese people (those who speak english mostly) and if you are in the group, they will always treat you well
they will just think twice before letting you in in the first place. But once you are there, you are there ^^

[Norister]

Japanese folks are polite and calm in nature. The rest of the world is too flammable.

[Rythless]

I'm not a xenophobic person and I actually find Japanese culture very interesting/entertaining; however, my experiences with Japanese players were extremely negative for a large majority of my FFXI "career." It put Japanese people in a very negative light for me for a number of years.

I know that a few bad apples don't necessarily spoil the whole orchard, but at least on my server there was a lot of tension between NA and JP players.

[FuriousLobster]

You said, "This is why the NA servers are always behind the JP servers in completing contents."

I listed an english-speaking guild on an NA server that is ahead of everyone in completing contents.

Your entire post wreaks of passive-aggressiveness. You can be polite all you want, but you're still toxic.

Your post was the hostile one. His was completely fine to me, yet yours was everything you complained about. You blamed him. You insulted him. You falsely accused him.

[Schdawn]

There are some rude JP players too.
The 2ch news sites are already writing articles about this.

『FF14』の民度ヤバすぎｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
【画像あり】新生FF14の民度がDQキッズ以下だった
etc.

It's just that they are so rare that you won't be finding them often unless you're unlucky.


I, myself, am playing in a JP server too, and my experience thus far is the same as OP, but I'm not sure if it will stay like this when I reach end game content or not.

[RyuujinZERO]

I think people over-state the rudeness and attitude of PUGs in NA too. I've only rarely encountered rude/obnoxious behaviour, most of the time people manage to stay upbeat and positive (even when we've failed!). People are usually friendly, chat and joke during the runs and by the end you can usually feel like you've gotten to know people and it's a shame you won't see them again.

Of my successful PUG runs, only one had an obnoxious member - A healer who was constantly smack talking the DPS calling them noobs and saying how they didn't have a chance because on the first pull one of them stood in an AoE and took damage; even though at the end of the day both he and the tank died on the final fight and the DPS took down the boss without a tank or healer! (He was rather quiet after that)

Of my failed runs, I havn't had one obnoxious member - I had a guy (The healer... again. Healers are most prone to be dickbags) who went off into a long rant about how the game sucked and he was going to unsubscribe because the game is impossibly hard (Sunken temple normal mode :/ ) and it'd wounded his ego, but that was directed at the devs rather than the players around him

[CamAlch]

You said, "This is why the NA servers are always behind the JP servers in completing contents."

I listed an english-speaking guild on an NA server that is ahead of everyone in completing contents.

Your entire post wreaks of passive-aggressiveness. You can be polite all you want, but you're still toxic.

Your post was the hostile one. His was completely fine to me, yet yours was everything you complained about. You blamed him. You insulted him. You falsely accused him.

My thoughts exactly.

First off, I don't think EdeinLi went it to be taken that way. And he is not wrong, the JP community is always faster at progressing that the NA/EU communities. The Blue Gartr guys are great, they are very skilled and move through content quickly. They even share information they gather with the rest of the community. However they are but one example and by no means define the NA community.

As for his comment contributing to what makes this community toxic, you just dropped yourself right into that boat as well, Ruminate. The difference is your approach is flat out aggressive.