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    They are equally as bad, they are just more secretive about it. NA just wears its thoughts on its sleeves, JP will hide it behind a mask. If you have ever done business in Japan you'll know what I am talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuddy View Post
    I play with Japanese people all the time and until recently I was typing in Romanji+Autotranslate (Alphabetic version of Japanese) and the Japanese never said a word about me being a Gaijin though it was plainly obvious. They were always very helpful and when we got a tank that had no idea how to tank (For some reason I run into a LOT of JP players who don't know how to tank, like not even using flash once bad). However there are also JP players that other than the set "Yoroshiku" at the beginning and "Otsukaresama" at the end DO NOT TALK AT ALL even when you try to talk to them (Maybe PS3+No Keyboard?). So it's not all roses.
    True, but better than seeing people bashing each other lol.

    Then again, there's many FC members here that doesn't talk at all because they are on PS3 and dont have keyboard

    Quote Originally Posted by HealBus View Post
    They are equally as bad, they are just more secretive about it. NA just wears its thoughts on its sleeves, JP will hide it behind a mask. If you have ever done business in Japan you'll know what I am talking about.
    Yeah. Honne and Tatemae?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heh View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by HealBus View Post
    They are equally as bad, they are just more secretive about it. NA just wears its thoughts on its sleeves, JP will hide it behind a mask. If you have ever done business in Japan you'll know what I am talking about.
    Also they can say something that to us is being polite but they are actually insulting us. Most people not knowing the cultural don't understand this and think they are always so polite, a lot is lost in translation sadly.
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    I love most Japanese people, they're always so kind and forgiving. It's a shame us Australians aren't the same.
    I think it maybe time that I just leave DF on Japanese only,
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealBus View Post
    They are equally as bad, they are just more secretive about it. NA just wears its thoughts on its sleeves, JP will hide it behind a mask. If you have ever done business in Japan you'll know what I am talking about.
    Cant compare business with games..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eylev View Post
    Cant compare business with games..
    People do whatever to make their point valid, even if it means comparing murder to flowers. That's how you know they've lost the argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealBus View Post
    They are equally as bad, they are just more secretive about it. NA just wears its thoughts on its sleeves, JP will hide it behind a mask. If you have ever done business in Japan you'll know what I am talking about.
    funny that people, especially US often say that on the internet people will become a jerk due to anonymous, thus the person will always be meaner, asshole-er online, than when they meet people face to face.
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  8. #28
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    the Jp community is a nice asian community I had seen (lets not compare to my country comunity, vietnam). But for NA/EU ppl are not from the same country, the other player you interract with may be some "fag" living at other country you never meet so why care ?, I guess this mind set may be the cause the NA/EU are not being nice to each other but ofc not everyone are like that, it is like 5/5 or 6/4 everytime you meet someone you dont know.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animation View Post
    People do whatever to make their point valid, even if it means comparing murder to flowers. That's how you know they've lost the argument.
    If you think that comparing social interactions in gauging whether a culture is "superior" or not as stated by people in this thread is the same as comparing murder to flowers then I am done with this thread. Was my mistake entering with a contrasting view in a thread clearly meant as a circle jerk.
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    Your post really made me miss the international community that was FFXI and FFXIV 1.0. Today, my boyfriend had a party with a JP player (the first since 2.0 launched -- we are on an NA legacy server). He mentioned the person was using "w" a lot and I explained to him that it was the JP equivalent of "lol." These are the little things I picked up over the years. The JP community were always very friendly and helpful. I remember back when I started FFXI... I was a low level WHM. A JP person sent me a tell asking me to join a party in Valkurm. I stumbled in the auto-translator to explain that I didn't know how to get there. I didn't even have a subjob yet... The JP person then explained back to me that he would come to meet me in Tahrongi and escort me there. He brought me on the ship, protected me, and when we made it to Valkurm, he went to switch jobs and meet us (this was before moogles being in Valkurm). This left such an impression on me because it was the first JP party I ever joined. I'll never forget it.

    There aren't many JP players on my server. Like I said, I've only seen one. There are, however, a lot of rude players -- either elitists or griefers or just people with nasty attitudes. I can't say for sure that ALL Japanese people are nice, but a lot of them are very polite and this is more of a cultural thing... like OP said, saying certain things is almost like a ritual. JP players seem to be very apologetic when something goes wrong. They don't assign blame. Even if you do something wrong, you won't get screamed at. They will try to explain it for you or give some sort of polite message about how we all tried and it's okay.

    My linkshell from 1.0 all decided to go to a JP server... but I am on the East coast of the US and my connection in 1.0 was very bad. I chose to go to the NA server because it was much closer to me. I haven't had any latency problems since coming here, but I really miss playing with people from all around the world.. I'm sure there are a bunch of EU players, but I don't usually see them. I'm much more likely to meet a player from Australia.
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