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    Player
    Coraline's Avatar
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    Zero Anselm
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbelgak View Post
    Coil hat is a turn 2 drop which most guilds can get on farm status rather easily making the hat a rather non-optimal early purchase in my opinion.

    Silly to make the allagan hat go to alts for a 6 crit increase when myth tomes are so limited.
    Yeah it almost makes sense to get Allagan over Myth. All these numbers are built around having ilvl70 mixed in till you get full 90.
    They are gonna change when CT comes out. But still be the same if you gear out in full ilvl90
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    Taylor Swiftsong
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbelgak View Post
    Coil hat is a turn 2 drop which most guilds can get on farm status rather easily making the hat a rather non-optimal early purchase in my opinion.

    Silly to make the allagan hat go to alts for a 6 crit increase when myth tomes are so limited.
    I didn't say it should be an early purchase. I said the myth hat was better than the Allagan visor.
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    Bardo Phor
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbelgak View Post
    Coil hat is a turn 2 drop which most guilds can get on farm status rather easily making the hat a rather non-optimal early purchase in my opinion.
    Silly to make the allagan hat go to alts for a 6 crit increase when myth tomes are so limited.
    Even considering it's a Turn2 drop and you have Turn2 on farm, there are 17 possible items from the chest in turn2.
    You get 2 chest drops per week, but data so far seems to point to each chest having it's own set of items and I think it's been pretty much confirmed that you can never get a double drop.
    So that's a 1 in 9 chance to get the hat each week.

    So on average you'll have picked up over 2700 mythology by the time you see the allagan hat.
    Not exactly odds I'd base my gear path around.

    You're correct that you definitely wouldn't want to buy it first. But there are better pieces to start with anyway.
    If you've already picked up a few of the the larger pieces and haven't seen the hat yet, I wouldn't continue to put it off.

    *edited to correct chance of seeing hat drop*
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    Last edited by Bardo; 11-07-2013 at 06:24 AM.

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    Taylor Swiftsong
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Even considering it's a Turn2 drop and you have Turn2 on farm, there are 28? possible items from the chest in turn2.
    Casters share drops, healers share drops and tanks share drops. Not 28 items
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    Pope Hat
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    Why does no one ever take Gryphonskin gear into consideration when making these lists?
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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by PopeHat View Post
    Why does no one ever take Gryphonskin gear into consideration when making these lists?
    I personally have most of the Gryphonskin gear and I haven't regretted my decision yet. The increase in stats may look small on paper but when it's all added together it's a pretty substantial jump over DL. Sure, I invested quite a bit of time to grind the 20,000+ philosophy tomes to get the armor/accessories but really, what else is there to do at endgame?

    Coil only takes 2 hours to clear up to turn 5 and Coil itself exactly crapping out BRD loot left and right. Myth tomes take weeks until you can get your big pieces. That money and time spent is easily made up in that long wait for myth pieces.

    Long story short, I say if you're tired of DL and you want a nice upgrade that allows you to be flexible while waiting on Myth purchases by all means go with the Gryphonskin. It doesn't hurt to have extra crit, VIT and determination to better round out your character.
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    Zero Anselm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    I personally have most of the Gryphonskin gear and I haven't regretted my decision yet.
    /applaud to you sir.
    I just made a gryphoskin ring. It allowed me to use Dps food instead of Acc food which is a nice tiny buff. Every point you can add up just to do a little more is always good. Sometimes it matters like in Turn 4 if you dont get the first Dread down or the final one while it enrages.
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    Ippon Seionage
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by PopeHat View Post
    Why does no one ever take Gryphonskin gear into consideration when making these lists?
    Because they cost millions of Gil and aren't BiS?
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    Gabbelle Gak
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PessimiStick View Post
    Because they cost millions of Gil and aren't BiS?
    However they are better than darklight which is what people start the comparisons from.

    The value in gil is completely irrelevant and would vary from server to server anyway. You can get a gryphonskin tunic for 400k very easily on Malboro and fully materia it out for under a mil unless you have some absurdly bad RNG. Or you can farm the materia yourself which is all the rage right now anyway and while farming the materia get all the animal fat to have it crafted for next to nothing.

    Some of us like to do more to better our characters than log on for the 300 weekly mythology tomes then log off.
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    Victoria Mccry
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    Jenova
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    Archer Lv 50
    Least I know what to get first now. i see many go +1 first and with spreadsheet I wonder why. I guess people think weapon > rest of gear when spreadsheet says otherwise.
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