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    Kroktar's Avatar
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    Kroktar Thalius
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    I made this, if you wanna consider coils drops
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Hc&usp=sharing
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    Last edited by Kroktar; 10-04-2013 at 05:18 AM.

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    RazzleDazzle's Avatar
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    Iron Codes
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Do you think it's logical to upgrade my bow to +1 as of now? (I have the myth pants and ring)
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    Tenkiei Miharu
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 50
    One other factor, which I don't think many people have yet discussed is hit cap. When hit is involved you cannot blindly value accuracy as a valuable stat. Let me give a good example of this, you are hit capped, you can drop 1 Determination, for 50 accuracy, would you do it?

    NO.
    Why?
    50 accuracy
    adds +0 dps.
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenkiei View Post
    One other factor, which I don't think many people have yet discussed is hit cap. When hit is involved you cannot blindly value accuracy as a valuable stat. Let me give a good example of this, you are hit capped, you can drop 1 Determination, for 50 accuracy, would you do it?
    Shh you're bringing logic into the argument, some here don't like logic. Haven't been to this thread in a while and yet I still see SS discussion, guess people still don't seem to realize that on those alagan/myth pieces that have all that SS they also almost all have accuracy. Keep talking up SS all you want people at the end of the day you'll find out that will all SS gear whether it be ilvl 90 or not you'll be well over(30+) the accuracy cap, so ask yourselves this for a second, if a piece of gear has 2 secondary stats on it that are good for me(det/crit or even the few pieces with SS on them) and many pieces of gear have SS and acc on them where half the stats are already wasted itemization and the other half is already sub par, which is the better choice whether SS has any worth or not?
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    Bardo Phor
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 70
    Further complicating the matter:
    Reddit - Limit Break Testing

    It appears as though DD limit breaks might apply damage based on an average of the group's weapon damage (or weapon ilvl).

    So if you take THAT into consideration, then Relic+1 looks a bit more compelling against AF2 pieces than the theorycraft up until now would suggest.
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    Last edited by Bardo; 10-16-2013 at 06:58 AM.

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    Viper Beam
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 70
    The original formula appears to be what BRDs would use if they did not care at all about River of Blood... which is a pretty serious undervaluation of CRT.
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Which is why my stat weights are much better. Latest revision:

    WD 7.849
    DEX 1.000
    DET 0.228
    CRT 0.222
    SS 0.131
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    Viper Beam
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Which is why my stat weights are much better. Latest revision:

    WD 7.849
    DEX 1.000
    DET 0.228
    CRT 0.222
    SS 0.131
    How do you arrive at 0.222 for CRT? Not sure CRT should be valued below DTR at all for BRD.
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    How do you arrive at 0.222 for CRT? Not sure CRT should be valued below DTR at all for BRD.
    I took Merix's base stats, updated them a few times to match other things I was doing (comparing similar stats between DRG/MNK/BRD), used a reasonably robust simple model that includes a full BRD rotation including all skills and modifiers (except Dragoon's Disembowel) to estimate DPS, and then alternatively added 10 Dex, 10 Crit, 10 SS, 10 Det, and 10 Weapon Damage (lol). Divided the results of each stat pump by the Dex result to normalize at a '1.0' value for Dex.

    ... How else would I do it?
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    Naya Na
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    lol... fun reading all the fights... Bottom Line: Get whatever you wanna get first. It is your character.

    I already have the chest. I will progress to pants and fill out rest of the body pieces and will get weapon probably last.
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