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    Elysium's Avatar
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    Lenneth Valkyrias
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    Now this is really killing the game for me..

    ALL DAY LONG farming bots teleporting everywhere and killing all mobs.. this way the game is really not fun to play.. how can this be possible.. no GM's? no one ban this people?

    They are ruining the game.. teleporting miner bots.. teleporting farmer bots..

    This game has a subscription.. I'm not accepting to play in this conditions.. I'm supposed to be able to farm whenever I want but the bots appears right on top of the mobs and they get all the loot and exp.. there is nothing we can do

    SE can you you do something about this?
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    Last edited by Elysium; 09-24-2013 at 11:15 AM.

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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Agreed. Along with the constant shouts and tells from gil sellers fed by these harvester bots, and the horrible impact they have in the market place, these RMTs and their bots are already hurting the game, and it's still in it's infancy. If nothing else it would be nice if SE could at least communicate what is being done to deter/end this menace.
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    If you read the forum you should know they are busy with it. However, the game is just up and catching up with these **** is hard enough as it is. Think you are right though. How can I farm karakul or gigantoad when some other idiot is grabbing all the mobs?
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    Given SE's history with FFXI and their clear paranoia about RMT (as evidenced by their own statements regarding V1's lack of a mail system, etc.) it amazes me this game is so bot-friendly.

    I just don't 'get' how SE can't figure how to implement pos-hack detection in the server, or the gil selling spam that characters in the cities spew out continually, without pause, for hours on end. So many things like post-throttling, teleporting etc. can't be hard to do (like a toon CAN'T move instantly half-way across the map), the fact SE didn't implement them before release amazes and appalls me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeronic View Post
    If you read the forum you should know they are busy with it.?
    Care to cite some posts where they talk about this at all? No, not the vague waffle about 'working hard', nor the self-congratulatory "we banned a few hundred accounts this wee" stuff but solid FACTS about what they have done/are doing, because the evidence they're NOT doing anything much is in the game:

    1) /shout spam worse than ever, nothing done by SE to implement a simple post-throttle even.
    2) no implementation of a SIMPLE wayh to report this scum
    3) the same level 1 RMTs standing by Ul'dah's mailbox 24/7 /shouting or obviously collecting/sending stuff

    NONE of these are HARD, and while they don't deal with the root cause they certainly would hugely mitigate RMT's effects on players. #3 in particular can't take more than 10 seconds to deal with one a report is posted, using the horribly tedious method SE have given us. A GM simply monitoring each server's main cities (ONE GM, not one per server) for 30 seconds at a time would be able to kill this menace pretty much the moment they start.

    Also, pos-hacking is NOT hard to detect, nor is these bot's ability to appear BELOW GROUND where they are invisible or just their nameplate shows which can't be interacted with.

    There ARE indeed some botting actions that are not east to detect at all I know that, however there seems to be not the smallest attempt by SE here, which is surprising given their history with FFXI where RMT nearly collapsed the economy leading up to Christmas 2005 and seemed to have shocked SE into action, as the STFU appeared some time after that IIRC.
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    Last edited by Kraggy; 09-24-2013 at 03:30 PM.

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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeronic View Post
    If you read the forum you should know they are busy with it. However, the game is just up and catching up with these **** is hard enough as it is. Think you are right though. How can I farm karakul or gigantoad when some other idiot is grabbing all the mobs?
    I know that they are working on it, but it's not entirely obvious or clear that they are when gil sellers spambots are standing in towns shouting or telling about their 'service' for days after being reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    Care to cite some posts where they talk about this at all? No, not the vague waffle about 'working hard', nor the self-congratulatory "we banned a few hundred accounts this wee" stuff but solid FACTS about what they have done/are doing, because the evidence they're NOT doing anything much is in the game:

    1) /shout spam worse than ever, nothing done by SE to implement a simple post-throttle even.
    2) no implementation of a SIMPLE wayh to report this scum
    3) the same level 1 RMTs standing by Ul'dah's mailbox 24/7 /shouting or obviously collecting/sending stuff

    NONE of these are HARD, and while they don't deal with the root cause they certainly would hugely mitigate RMT's effects on players. #3 in particular can't take more than 10 seconds to deal with one a report is posted, using the horribly tedious method SE have given us. A GM simply monitoring each server's main cities (ONE GM, not one per server) for 30 seconds at a time would be able to kill this menace pretty much the moment they start.

    Also, pos-hacking is NOT hard to detect, nor is these bot's ability to appear BELOW GROUND where they are invisible or just their nameplate shows which can't be interacted with.

    There ARE indeed some botting actions that are not east to detect at all I know that, however there seems to be not the smallest attempt by SE here, which is surprising given their history with FFXI where RMT nearly collapsed the economy leading up to Christmas 2005 and seemed to have shocked SE into action, as the STFU appeared some time after that IIRC.
    I reported them in the Main Menu in-game.. System Settings -> Contact Us -> Report Cheating.. I reported 3 teleporting farming bots.. everyone should report as soon as they see them hoping that the ban hammer will be fast enough

    Yesterday this bots farmed since the morning.. when I came back from work the same bots farming in the same exact spot..

    I really believe that SE should ban this people in the same day.. there is no investigation needed.. you just see them teleport everywhere and kill all the mobs available in the zone
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    I'd also like to know what is being done. I report bots when I see them, I gave up on reporting the shout spammers there are just too many of them.

    On Leviathan I have blacklisted many of the spammers who sent /tells in game.
    Bdcd Dfdf
    Ninonoy Nino
    Leeroy Jenkins
    Lodewicusvgb Ballard
    Kammagasd Ramaga
    Gylbart Weaveras
    Bran Poole
    Fshsd Sfe
    Fenris Eckhart
    Kachof Lohcho
    Gudythad Brooks
    Oho Gigyg
    Kususu Kusu
    Vbnv Vbn
    Sandrej North
    Eddav Potter
    Kerriche Corwelle
    Ghj Ghj
    Olyver Yaeger
    Jjtojnar Eqpglrpr
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    Br Salecom
    Kamjikasz Rajika
    Jonathas Braddockfd
    Crim Masters
    Erikgh Hodder
    Deongeim Loezkhanwyn
    Cevilia Marinterre
    We Qwewq
    Frederyka Oswell
    Ralinfd Yaralin
    Dhdg Dfgdf
    Okhi Panipah
    Mad Lute
    Cantera Yhisa
    Naipo Yuipo
    Gsgag Gg
    Oliverk Witte
    Grtwergfg Sfsete
    Aldousyh Brewer
    Xcb Xcb
    Morgantt Rich

    If SE does what they did with FFXI they will randomly ban thousands at once. Maybe if we all post the names and what server they're on SE may pay attention?
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    It was so crazy... I was out mining and I just watched one of these farm bots disappear and reappear on nodes, harvest, then repeat.

    I'm not sure how they are doing this, but I am REALLY surprised that the coding for the game is loose enough to have this teleporting exploit. It's something I would expect from a first gen game.

    It will only be a matter of time before people are using this exploit to get through dungeons, etc. (If they aren't already)

    It really needs to be fixed. I am really shocked something like this even happens in a game in this day and age....
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    SE is doing something, but i agree it could be more. Let's see how it is starting october, I expect a lot less bots.
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