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  1. #21
    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Arya Stark
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    Leviathan
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hobo View Post
    You think they would have learned after FF11 and "Mr. Argus"
    They didn't learn anything, because those things are still going strong in FFXI to this day. Maybe not Mr. Argus itself, but whenever one program gets shutdown, another one pops right back up to take it's place.
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  2. #22
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    Gunblazer42's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Jayden Andereon
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 37
    I'm actually interested in knowing how the bot works.

    Like, on a technical level. What do they abuse in the game code that allows them to teleport, and that sort of stuff.

    I mean like, it's obviously something wrong, but the fact that this bot allows that to happen fascinates me.
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  3. #23
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    FayaAOP's Avatar
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    Veevee Pendragon
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 48
    I have seen the teleporting bots in GW2 aswell, reported them..came back 3 weeks later, still the ssame bot farming.
    Same will be in FFXIV.
    It is by now as far as the bots are under the map, porting from node to node.
    On top of that, whole FCs of botters are farming a large area, basically barring kills for everyone else.

    Sorry to say it SE, but this killed the game for me and on top of that: REALLY? I have to go to the forums, wade trough it to find your special force to present evidence of a botter?
    You Did the same mistake in 1.0 and apparantly didnt learn from it.
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  4. #24
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    Kahlyn's Avatar
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    Kahl'yn Dorannor
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 26
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunblazer42 View Post
    I'm actually interested in knowing how the bot works.

    Like, on a technical level. What do they abuse in the game code that allows them to teleport, and that sort of stuff.
    Most often, it's based on a positioning packet. E.g., the server and the client have to communicate on where your character is located; as you move (client-side), the server changes your pointer (server-side). The hacks usually abuse this by making you "move" to some specific position instantly, and the server just accepts it. IIRC in WoW, they implemented a "check" system that prevented the server from moving you any further in a single jump than you could have gone via normal travel means, but I could be wrong.
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    --Kahl'yn Dorannor

  5. #25
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    rocco1986's Avatar
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    Rockkus Reinheart
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 42
    For the things like crystals, that gatherers can get easily. I think each server should just find a few players who they know are legit. And if you really need to buy those things only buy from their retainers. If every one did this, and the players sellin under cut the bots. I think we could make a huge dent in the bots operations.
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  6. #26
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    Dano's Avatar
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    Danorille Pandemonium
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 61
    this is quite horrible, shows how exploitative the game can be... sigh.
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  7. #27
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    makii's Avatar
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    Luny Lulune
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 31
    Almost a month in and SE still hasn't fixed this? Are they blind or do they just not give a shit?

    There's a lot of players, me included, spending a lot of time leveling up the honest way, and these idiots are just a kick in the face.
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  8. #28
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    Shneibel Panipahr
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Blazn View Post
    Just logged on in the main city near market board 5 min. only one pm about gil... maybe today was another ban hammer day...
    the ban hammer is everyday, everyday I blacklist 2-3 or 1 RMT, and the next day I can remove them from the list and never see that nick again but the new nick

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorin View Post
    Well they aren't banning now, but probably those who use the bot are getting flagged somehow, and in the future their accounts MIGHT (hopefully) get banned.

    So if you're serious about your account I would strongly advise you to not use it. Common sense I know, but still.
    as I said above, those acc got ban everyday, so yes what you say is false, cos those acc got ban within 24h after report. I once meet them at thanalan right outside uldah at mining zone lvl 10, after report I dont see them anymore the next day and until now, the same as every other zone where ppl spot em and report
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  9. #29
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    Kenka's Avatar
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    Kenkh Pirrenka
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kahlyn View Post
    Most often, it's based on a positioning packet. E.g., the server and the client have to communicate on where your character is located; as you move (client-side), the server changes your pointer (server-side). The hacks usually abuse this by making you "move" to some specific position instantly, and the server just accepts it. IIRC in WoW, they implemented a "check" system that prevented the server from moving you any further in a single jump than you could have gone via normal travel means, but I could be wrong.
    This is pretty much what Ragnarok Online did (and that game is pretty old) That check had its side effects though. For a time, if you were hit by two knockbacks in rapid succession the server would have a bit of trouble guessing your correct position and disconnect you for "speed-hacking"
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    Last edited by Kenka; 09-24-2013 at 05:21 PM. Reason: spelling

  10. #30
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    Vanguard319's Avatar
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    I've returned! First I find pants, then Louisoix dies for sending me to the void.
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    Uni Neko
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by MeisterToxx View Post
    Anyone not new to the internets knows what you said is false.
    They have been banning gilsellers left and right, and RMT is considered cheating. third party devices like bots also are considered cheats under the EULA. So by all means, use the bots if you don't mind getting banned.
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