Warriors - Rerolls

[Corkafish]

I'm going to roll Paladin to 50 as well, because while Warrior is great at what it does, it suffers against heavy damage. Warrior is currently built to be a trash/add tank, and I have no problem with that, as I played a similar role on my bear druid in WoW. Our platey facerolled the boss and I tore all of the adds to shreds. If I tried to main-tank hard hitting bosses like Tortos, I required a lot of healing and was prone to sudden death syndrome due to a lack of anti-spike tools, but I held aggro much better on multiple mobs and did more than my share in mowing them down.

As soon as people start overgearing the content, WAR will start to become the preferred class even against raid bosses due to their damage output and higher health pool. Right now, though, PLD is the way to go if you want to clear Coil. As easy as it is to level up and gear alternate jobs, I don't see it as a major issue. Suck up your pride and do what's best for your group. You'll get your chances to play WAR.

[Kryzen]

I agree with Corka except I am going to opposite route as he is. I have my PLD at 50 and am currently gearing him, getting close to full DL. On the side I am leveling a WAR so we can clear previous content quick to help gear the rest of the FC, and its more fun as a WAR. New content, PLD. Farming Content, WAR.

Just how I am doing it.

[Kryzen]

Hachiko is correct, Sword oath generates far more threat then shield oath. It’s not even close between the two. The put it in more of a perspective A full grown man (sword oath) VS a child (Shield Oath) in a Tug-O-War contest. Sword Oath is just going to grab that rope and start walking away dragging shield oath with it.

[LunarEmerald]

There's been testing done. Shield oath gives more enmity.

[Phaus]

With all this whining I can see warriors excelling greatly in the near future, whether they're buffed for PvE or dominate PvP to compensate.
Brb levelling a warrior.

[Kalandros]

For Coil, a Warrior is fine for everything except taking hits from Twintania due to the mechanics of Auto attack + Death Sentence + that other attack I forget the name of.
So really, Warriors are fine for 99% of the tanking to do in the game right now.

Paladins aren't as effective for multi-threat in very time-sensitive fights like the Elevator boss. Much prefer having the Warrior tank all the adds while the Paladin tanks Dreadnoughts.

Thats how we roll however.

We just really know that the Warrior CANNOT tank Twintania - everything else is plenty fine.

[NovaLevossida]

It's depressing when I go into something like Titan hard mode and I know that I'm going to die due to the healers because I'm not a PLD or that we're going to wipe because people can't dodge. People not dodging is the number one cause of wipes, but even if we get past that, I just can't expect healers to keep me alive even when I use cooldowns and IB to counter Mountain Buster. I know this would be much easier as a PLD, and that's the problem. I actually have to beat Titan on WAR, and it's depressing that when I'm sitting in full DL and have garuda's axe that I still can't do it because healers can't top me off / react to mountain buster. And if we have a PLD, and I go DPS mode, I always get people who keep on dying to staying in the weight of the land attacks.

[Edward_Newgate]

I'm re-rolling to a miner.

[Naustra]

YoshiP make me laught, saying "Warrior are very strong, they need to learn to play" by saying that, he also talk about every healer that are having harder time to heal WAR. So basicaly... Screw all your experience of other MMO... Screw your End game hard mode of WoW, SWTOR, TERA, TSW, Rift, all of you guys dont know how to play /adapt. Screw your obvious Theorycrafting , screw mathematics (LOL), you guys just need to learn of to play.

Another thing... Does FFXIV has a PTR? I dont think so, so who test their end game ? YoshiP Little sister that play to collect mini-pet? Or that girl that paint her nail with Moogle?

Im not a World first style player, but when all the world first player say that Warrior is WAY worse than paladin in the tanking/mitigation aspect of the game, I guess i need to trust them.

Ive Killed Titan HM and First boss of Coil (onw to kill second boss) but saying WAR are as good a PAL for tanking is like saying Hallowed ground is equal to Thrill of Battle...

Another thing... Does he say that WAR are strong for 4 man dungeon and CM ? because YES they are very strong for that, but who care about being strong for easy content?

TLDR : If YoshiP tell the truth that all healer and WAR need to relearn to play, he need to prove it, free word are just too easy.

[Baci]

Its fine, atleast till Turn 5.