Warriors - Rerolls

[ZealHoss]

I know, you are a Paladinfanboy and like all the other Fanboys out there, you fear taht SE will Buff Warrior, so Group can choose Warrior or Paladin doenst matter.
Right now everyone prefer Paladin becauce ist easier for the Group.

No one is scared of SE buffing warrior lol, hopefully they do so you guys stop whining and i dont have to play with another pld doing jack shit in my groups. Also i have never been a paladin fanboy i played ninja on ffxi till the day i quit.

out of curiosity, how do you judge that they're doing it as well as PLD?

What do you feel a WAR can do better than a PLD that is important for tanking.

1. They are clearing all the content available atm.

2. I would much rather have a warrior in my group than another paladin doing no dmg and not tanking, warriors do alot more dmg and can pick up large groups of adds alot easier than i can.

[Kitru]

A warrior can do things better than a paladin and the same goes for paladin.

Care to tell me what exactly *does* it do better?

Damage wise, an MT WAR has to choose between just *barely* edging out a PLDs threat but dealing a crapton less damage or just *barely* edging out a PLDs damage but generating a crapton less enmity. A WAR requires more healing than a PLD does. A WAR has a worse burst CD suite than a PLD does. The only thing that a WAR has that a PLD doesn't is self heals, and those are only an advantage when you don't have a healer, which doesn't happen in any group content that I know of, especially since a WAR burning self heals is going to survive less than 10 seconds (which is what a PLD could guarantee they survive with Hallowed Ground) against an 8 man boss by her lonesome. WAR even has an arguably harder time with AoE threat thanks to the massive opportunity cost incurred by Overpower.

It's a complete and utter fallacy that *anything* that a WAR does better than a PLD is even remotely useful and, comically enough, it's not even the stuff that people bring up all the time that they end up doing better than PLD.

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

Bullshit sorry,... yes, Warriors are agressiv, Paladin defensive, both are tanks, yes. but Paladin is way better then Warrior.

Sadly I agree. Our self heals are cool but one heal for 700-1200 health every 30 seconds or so from inner beast doesn't compare to 20% damage reduction from a toggle skill -.-

[Ninjiitstu]

Sadly I agree. Our self heals are cool but one heal for 700-1200 health every 30 seconds or so from inner beast doesn't compare to 20% damage reduction from a toggle skill -.-

If you are really comparing Inner beast to Shield oath your doing it wrong.

[Rios-Drakoon]

Like i said ZealHoss

Do you really think, Warrior is just in the game for Tanking Multiple Adds nothing more?

We Warriors are TANK, and we want to TANK, not just grab Adds because we have Overpower. thats bullshit sorry.


Healer prefers Paladin as MT because ist easier to Keep them alive, thats why SE Need to Buff some abilities from Warrior.

[ZealHoss]

Like i said ZealHoss

Do you really think, Warrior is just in the game for Tanking Multiple Adds nothing more?

We Warriors are TANK, and we want to TANK, not just grab Adds because we have Overpower. thats bullshit sorry.


Healer prefers Paladin as MT because ist easier to Keep them alive, thats why SE Need to Buff some abilities from Warrior.

With the content that is out at the moment (being very little) yes i do think warrior is best for adds, and i would rather be tanking with a warrior than another paladin any day. Soon enough warriors will be tanking everything, but they are using FF's job system the warrior will never be a paladin, you will most likely just get a buff to leach skills, and probably cross class rampart from gladiator, unless you already have rampart? Even if you all think you suck there is still paladins around that want you guys around, give yourselves more credit.

[Rios-Drakoon]

dont compare FFXI with FFXIV, i also played FFXI, and there FFXI was Warrior a full Tank, then Paladin and Ninja came, and Warrior was a full DD, here in FFXIV warrior can never be a full dd, tahts a fact.
so you say Warrior is just fine as halfbacked Tank JUST, and only for tank Adds, nothing more? what bullshit sorry.

in this world no MMORPG can bring up a "Tank Class" ONLY for the reason to tank Adds.

Tank class can Tank everything, just diffrent, like i said, some Tank reduce incoming dmg, other Tanks selfheal himselfs but at the end of the day, all tank should do the same Job equal. but Warrior and Paldin are not equal right now, there is a huge gap between These 2 class

[Veurr]

I don't play a warrior. But my friend does. I'll say this by way of encouragement. I've killed Titan HM a few times now. Every kill was with a warrior tanking and it wasn't my buddy everytime either.

[Blazn]

OP Yoshi said the devs are strong with them in the development areas. This is where they test the buffs nerfs and content. If warriors are strong in the dev area it's most likely due to them getting buffed. That's hardly a learn to play answer, odds are you never read his full post read maybe 1/4 of it and now are trying to quote it.

[Duelle]

This is where they test the buffs nerfs and content. If warriors are strong in the dev area it's most likely due to them getting buffed. That's hardly a learn to play answer, odds are you never read his full post read maybe 1/4 of it and now are trying to quote it.

Yoshida would have been better served by saying "we're testing some changes to warrior and now they look really strong. Please look forward to 2.1" and it would have prevented this OP and some of the arguments that have broken out.