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    Player
    Illya's Avatar
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 80
    I have no interest in leveling 2 tanking classes, so I rolled an Archer instead. Kiting is pretty fun in this game, I can run FATE bosses in circles indefinitely if they aren't ranged attackers. Well, indefinitely until I get bored of it, usually some people show up pretty quickly after I've kited it around awhile and somebody with a sword and board takes the aggro and tanks it for us.
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 51
    I got my Pally up to 50 a couple days ago and am now in the process of leveling my Warrior (technically still a Marauder at 27). I mainly enjoy tanking and expect SE will keep tinkering with both main tank classes).
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    Mishayangg's Avatar
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    Captain Cook
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    Spriggan
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    Marauder Lv 72
    Reroll to Paladin. WAR is not a tank. It is a DPS that takes reduced damage.
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    Eylev Anastos
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm going to switch over WAR to try it out.. Many of us keep complaining about tanking less than a PLD but as a WAR is about as a sub tank and can dish a good amount of damage than PLD while at tanking.. Thought it might sound weird, a WAR job is harder to control than PLD and it's more effective to use in 8man dungeons due to dangerous bosses and adds.. As 4man dungeons, be it whether is PLD or WAR, both should be able to complete it smoothly..
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    Kyzr Aegis
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eylev View Post
    I'm going to switch over WAR to try it out.. Many of us keep complaining about tanking less than a PLD but as a WAR is about as a sub tank and can dish a good amount of damage than PLD while at tanking.. Thought it might sound weird, a WAR job is harder to control than PLD and it's more effective to use in 8man dungeons due to dangerous bosses and adds.. As 4man dungeons, be it whether is PLD or WAR, both should be able to complete it smoothly..
    WARs do around 5% more damage than a PLD.
    Since they take 20% more MP and GCDs to heal, one could argue that if healers spend the time saved healing a PLD by doing damage, that a PLD is actually a net-gain in DPS for a group.

    WARs struggle with burst DPS. Inner Beast does not make up the difference of Rampart, Sentinel, Bulwark, and Shield Oath combined.
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    Lotarion Ninefingers
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    With Sword Oath Paladin is both better main and off tank.
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    Poh Poi
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Lotarion View Post
    With Sword Oath Paladin is both better main and off tank.
    Sadly... this is so true... my War is on the back burner til 2nd job classes come out, hoping they give mauraders Samurai or beastmaster when you play both War and Pld u can definitely notice the difference.
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    Voraxxis Kader
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Already a 48 PLD after doing WAR 50 first. Once I hit 50 PLD, I won't be using WAR for much of anything. PLD is just better at this point in the game and sadly, it's not even close. I'd love to see the Dev footage of them using WAR on these hard hitting bosses in Coil.
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    Kyzr Aegis
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Voraxxis View Post
    Already a 48 PLD after doing WAR 50 first. Once I hit 50 PLD, I won't be using WAR for much of anything. PLD is just better at this point in the game and sadly, it's not even close. I'd love to see the Dev footage of them using WAR on these hard hitting bosses in Coil.
    I'm willing to bet they playtested Coil with Coil~tier gear. Blizzard admitted they took this approach until WotLK, and had to change their thinking in order to properly tune the Raid-Finder.
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    Orianne Savreux
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    Gilgamesh
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    Armorer Lv 31
    I would guess they probably tested it with Crystal Tower gear and not the current i70.

    As an aside, irrc there was a dev quote about them expecting fewer than 100 groups to beat all turns of the coil before Crystal Tower. With content tuned to that extreme, it's a lot more likely to see strongly favored party compositions, the implication being that if a player always want to be positioned to beat content like that when first released, it may be necessary to level all of the jobs for a given party role.
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