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[Victor]

Those of you on these forums (no, on all FFXIV forums) who relentlessly defend this game in all of your posts seriously exhaust me. How long are you guys going to have to parade around in your misguided crusade before you get to the point the other 99% of us have...

Another thing that greatly annoys me is that many of these people base their arguments on knowing the thought process of not just themselves, but everyone else! This especially includes who they're disagreeing with and of course all the programmers and developers over at Square-Enix (they also know all about how long it should take them to implement new content). Like who the fuck do you think you are? You're not fucking clairvoyant, sorry. Let's face it, when you're on the unpopular side of something like this (and at this point you're more of a minority than a colored hair on a 90 year old man), it's usually because you're wrong.

...God.

[Xatsh]

Those of you on these forums (no, on all FFXIV forums) who relentlessly defend this game in all of your posts seriously exhaust me. How long are you guys going to have to parade around in your misguided crusade before you get to the point the other 99% of us have... Let's face it, when you're on the unpopular side of a dispute, it's usually because you're wrong.

We will stop relentlessly defend the game when something better comes out.

Rift = WoW, which was a shallow peice of crap that only appealed to the non-mmo gamer.

Star Wars is a solo player game with a few options for group play.... aka it is not even a mmo techniqually, it is focusing on all the things a mmo is not except for the story. That and they are using graphics that would be considered sub par back in 2005.

GW2 is a 100% solo player game from what they are saying there is literally no grouping at all it is just a bunch of people soloing together on 1 mob... Alot of new things here but once again they are making it for the non-mmo gamers.

Tera is the only semi decent mmo coming out but they are nerfing the crap out of it for the NA market... so /sigh.

We white knights will stop defending it when Devs stop throwing out WoW clones and Solo based mmos.

Honestly if you do not like Grinds, you do not like grouping, you do not like spending along time on character development you simply do not like a true mmo. If you are in catagory you should go to ToR or Rift those games are designed for the 90% of the mmo player based that despises the genre.

[Ludicrous]

We will stop relentlessly defend the game when something better comes out.

Rift = WoW, which was a shallow peice of crap that only appealed to the non-mmo gamer.

Star Wars is a solo player game with a few options for group play.... aka it is not even a mmo techniqually, it is focusing on all the things a mmo is not except for the story. That and they are using graphics that would be considered sub par back in 2005.

GW2 is a 100% solo player game from what they are saying there is literally no grouping at all it is just a bunch of people soloing together on 1 mob... Alot of new things here but once again they are making it for the non-mmo gamers.

Tera is the only semi decent mmo coming out but they are nerfing the crap out of it for the NA market... so /sigh.

We white knights will stop defending it when Devs stop throwing out WoW clones and Solo based mmos.

Honestly if you do not like Grinds, you do not like grouping, you do not like spending along time on character development you simply do not like a true mmo. If you are in catagory you should go to ToR or Rift those games are designed for the 90% of the mmo player based that despises the genre.

Xatsh. I've enjoyed your posts in the past. But I gotta say you're talking out of your ass here when it comes to SWTOR and probably about the other games too. SWTOR is a full blown MMORPG. You'd know this if you actually looked the game up yourself. It just goes beyond what the normal MMO does and adds such a rich amount of story and VO that it gives all the goodness of a single player game. But to say it's not an MMO is completely ignorant, false, and just plain old talking out of your ass.

If you're gonna rebutt do it with the facts. SWTOR will be much more MMORPG than this game.

Comming from an ex White Knight, sorry, I can't defend this game anymore.

[Onidemon]

Xatsh. I've enjoyed your posts in the past. But I gotta say you're talking out of your ass here when it comes to SWTOR and probably about the other games too. SWTOR is a full blown MMORPG. You'd know this if you actually looked the game up yourself. It just goes beyond what the normal MMO does and adds such a rich amount of story and VO that it gives all the goodness of a single player game. But to say it's not an MMO is completely ignorant, false, and just plain old talking out of your ass.

If you're gonna rebutt do it with the facts. SWTOR will be much more MMORPG than this game.

Comming from an ex White Knight, sorry, I can't defend this game anymore.

Get used to it dude.... half of the people on this forum know all about other upcoming mmos and how well they will succeed or fail even before they hit the market. Just as the other half knows all about how long it takes the FFXIV dev team to produce or what kind of limitation the crystal tools engine has.... hell they even know about statements SE has never made....

[Ilean]

Honestly if you do not like Grinds, you do not like grouping, you do not like spending along time on character development you simply do not like a true mmo. If you are in catagory you should go to ToR or Rift those games are designed for the 90% of the mmo player based that despises the genre.

Thats BS. By your definition what makes a MMO an MMO is the time you sink killing one inconsequential enemy after another, not really learning anything new after the first 15 minutes of it? Or is it the exp/sp you gain, which is arbitrarily decided by a group of people who want to get as much of the players' money as possible?

Honestly, char development is almost null for every MMO, that's better left to pen and paper RPGs, where the world really reacts to you beyond a silly fame system, and a good story teller will tailor a story for you and a few others that is really the center of the game universe.

If I don't like grinds I don't like grouping? I guess your mind might be sub-par, which would give you a great resilience against boredom from mindless repetitive drone actions. Just know that for average human beings fighting raptors stops being a mind blowing experience after the first ten or so.

[Ludicrous]

Thats BS. By your definition what makes a MMO an MMO is the time you sink killing one inconsequential enemy after another, not really learning anything new after the first 15 minutes of it? Or is it the exp/sp you gain, which is arbitrarily decided by a group of people who want to get as much of the players' money as possible?

Honestly, char development is almost null for every MMO, that's better left to pen and paper RPGs, where the world really reacts to you beyond a silly fame system, and a good story teller will tailor a story for you and a few others that is really the center of the game universe.

If I don't like grinds I don't like grouping? I guess your mind might be sub-par, which would give you a great resilience against boredom from mindless repetitive drone actions. Just know that for average human beings fighting raptors stops being a mind blowing experience after the first ten or so.

Agreed. The MMORPG genre is evolving. Some poeple don't want it to I suppose. While I'm no fan of Rift whatsoever. Most of the games on Xatsh's list have far superior character development than this game ever will, but I can only speak for TOR definitively.

I love the genre and I will always love FFXI and this game will always have a special place for me. I'm just recognizing the future of the genre and what it holds. Just because I'm excited about TOR doesn't mean I despise the genre. It's taking the genre to some really neat territory.

Oh and just to be clear I despise WoW and it's community. McMMO has done alot of damage to the genre in my opinion, while TOR and GW2 are pushing it into the right direction.