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    Anyone play with a plasma TV?

    I'm looking to buy to a plasma TV (don't want to go LED so please don't ask) and I wanted to know if anyone plays with a plasma tv? I wanted to know what model you had and if you see any lag while playing FFXIV on your TV? I know the game will have some lag, I just wanted to know about the TV lag even when you switch it over to game mode.

    Thank you

    I know all about LED tvs, the pros and cons, but I'm looking specifically for information on plasma.
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    If you knew everything about LED tv's, youd know a thing or two about response times. Each screen has specific response times measured in ms, the higher the value, the worse the lag will be. Plasma or LED will make no difference in this case, just check the response time and make sure its low.
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    i play on a plasma TV. it is AMAZING. I have a 55" panasonic http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 there's just one issue, and its kind of a big one. Image retention. i run wipes all the time, but i still get residual images (like shadows) of the chat log and mini map. There is either zero lag, or its small enough that I don't notice. The real issue is image retention, turn down that brightness, dont use the preset "gaming" mode because it sets brightness at 100. I have been gaming with this TV since I bought it, if you have any specific question, let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal_Arcadia View Post
    If you knew everything about LED tv's, youd know a thing or two about response times. Each screen has specific response times measured in ms, the higher the value, the worse the lag will be. Plasma or LED will make no difference in this case, just check the response time and make sure its low.
    Thank you for that and yes I did know about the lag times. 35ms or less is supposed to be the acceptable value by people who have reviewed some high-end brands. Unfortunately, tv manufacturers don't list the lag times anywhere, and definitely not in the user manuals. It's usually gotten from people who have the tv and report it to the masses. The game mode was suppose to reduce lag but I see reports that some tvs still experience lag. But I figured if anyone here has one and has specifically played it with FFXIV, that's what I wanted to know. FFXIV is the only game I play right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velstriker View Post
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    Thank you! That's what I wanted to know. I didn't even think about the chat log and map being in the same place causing image retention. Something for me to think about. The ST30 model that you have, it has a built-in feature that sort-of wipes the screen? That's neat. I'll look at the newer models to see if this feature is still there or if it has been enhanced upon over the years.

    Have you ever done a wipe and it look like the image was still there forcing you to wipe it more than 2 times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velstriker View Post
    i play on a plasma TV. it is AMAZING. I have a 55" panasonic http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 there's just one issue, and its kind of a big one. Image retention. i run wipes all the time, but i still get residual images (like shadows) of the chat log and mini map. There is either zero lag, or its small enough that I don't notice. The real issue is image retention, turn down that brightness, dont use the preset "gaming" mode because it sets brightness at 100. I have been gaming with this TV since I bought it, if you have any specific question, let me know.
    re: burn-ins

    I have been playing on my crappy 720p 42' Panasonic plasma (OK, not crappy but probably mid-range) for approx. 4 years now and while I do notice some image retention after playing all day, it disappears overnight. There has not been any permanent burn-ins. Plasma's have come a long way since those days so I just wanted to break that stigma/"stereotype" (?)

    re: lag

    Video lag? Input lag? Personally I do not notice any input lag, but I do notice video lag (compared to my computer LCD monitor). I wonder why though...? Don't plasmas have very good refresh rates? Doesn't bother me too much.
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    I don't like how it looks on my 1080p Panasonic plasma over my 32" sharp 1080p LCD. Certainly not as crisp, could just be the size however. Its an older model plasma though like 5 years old, back before they became wafer thin and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infernodox View Post
    re: burn-ins

    I have been playing on my crappy 720p 42' Panasonic plasma (OK, not crappy but probably mid-range) for approx. 4 years now and while I do notice some image retention after playing all day, it disappears overnight. There has not been any permanent burn-ins. Plasma's have come a long way since those days so I just wanted to break that stigma/"stereotype" (?)

    re: lag

    Video lag? Input lag? Personally I do not notice any input lag, but I do notice video lag (compared to my computer LCD monitor). I wonder why though...? Don't plasmas have very good refresh rates? Doesn't bother me too much.
    right, sorry, its burn-ins, its not permanent. Just annoying when there is an all white screen when you're watching TV and you see shadows of chat boxes and mini maps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerkargeo View Post
    Thank you! That's what I wanted to know. I didn't even think about the chat log and map being in the same place causing image retention. Something for me to think about. The ST30 model that you have, it has a built-in feature that sort-of wipes the screen? That's neat. I'll look at the newer models to see if this feature is still there or if it has been enhanced upon over the years.

    Have you ever done a wipe and it look like the image was still there forcing you to wipe it more than 2 times?

    it has a tool where it wipes a solid white bar across a black screen for 15 minutes. It usually does the trick, but sometimes after a marathon session it takes a few days to go away. I am making it sound worse than it really is, you really have to pay attention to even notice it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velstriker View Post
    it has a tool where it wipes a solid white bar across a black screen for 15 minutes. It usually does the trick, but sometimes after a marathon session it takes a few days to go away. I am making it sound worse than it really is, you really have to pay attention to even notice it.
    Thanks for the info
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