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    Quote Originally Posted by Neasa View Post
    Believe it or not, there's more to the game than one instance.
    I wish there was, but if I want to play with friends at 50 there is only ampador keep.

    Wanderer's palace is designed to become obsolete after one run and gives less rewards as a result of being a tier down from AK.
    Primals are designed to be ran once(ideally)
    Coil of bahamut has a lockout.

    It's sad but Ampador keep is the only end-game 4 man dungeon and the only thing worth repeating.

    The only thing square enix got right with the end-game is the difficulty, there sure as hell isn't a lot of content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    I wish there was, but if I want to play with friends at 50 there is only ampador keep.

    Wanderer's palace is designed to become obsolete after one run and gives less rewards as a result of being a tier down from AK.
    Primals are designed to be ran once(ideally)
    Coil of bahamut has a lockout.

    It's sad but Ampador keep is the only end-game 4 man dungeon and the only thing worth repeating.

    The only thing square enix got right with the end-game is the difficulty, there sure as hell isn't a lot of content.
    Farming Garuda/Titan can be just as fast for mythology tomestones, minus that pesky wait time. Weapons/Furniture items are a bonus.
    Wanderer's Palace is a good gil maker, and helps break the monotony.
    Praetorium is the best place for philosophy tomestones.
    Having a narrow-minded view of end-game is your issue, not SE's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neasa View Post
    Farming Garuda/Titan can be just as fast for mythology tomestones, minus that pesky wait time. Weapons/Furniture items are a bonus.
    Wanderer's Palace is a good gil maker, and helps break the monotony.
    Praetorium is the best place for philosophy tomestones.
    Having a narrow-minded view of end-game is your issue, not SE's.
    It's not narrow-minded at all, I killed garuda about 20 times today just because Ampador keep isn't working properly. It's not exactly fun. Neither is farming a story instance for hours to get items(Not that I need darklight, I've already done 100+ Ampador runs - goodgamelol).

    It's pretty sad that you have to keep coming up with excuses for square launching their game with only 1 relevant level 50 4-man dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    ***SNIP*** It's pretty sad that you have to keep coming up with excuses for square launching their game with only 1 relevant level 50 4-man dungeon.
    So... what I'm actually hearing from you is:
    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    I'm stuck because I don't like waiting for AK runs, but I don't want to(or can't) do other things that might be faster so I'm going to say that I am bored of doing them. I can't beat Titan to get faster Myth stones out of CoB yet... so I am going to blame SE instead of just admitting that the game is a bit harder then my current skill level/gear allows. I just want to leapfrog Philo stones, gimme more ways to get easy Myths tomes without waiting.
    You know, it's ok if you are stuck. They will tone Titan down when new things are released, and you have plenty of other classes to level in the mean time if you are worn out beating your head against him.

    If you are just one of those people that just likes being overgeared for things before trying them, then you will just have to wait it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    So... what I'm actually hearing from you is:
    You know, it's ok if you are stuck. They will tone Titan down when new things are released, and you have plenty of other classes to level in the mean time if you are worn out beating your head against him.

    If you are just one of those people that just likes being overgeared for things before trying them, then you will just have to wait it out.
    Eh I have my relic+1. Nice try though. I bet you just love jumping on opportunities to call people bad. Sad attitude to have.

    Instead of attempting to rebute my point you instead go for an ad hominem attack and completely miss the mark. A+ for effort though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    Eh I have my relic+1. Nice try though. I bet you just love jumping on opportunities to call people bad. Sad attitude to have.

    Instead of attempting to rebute my point you instead go for an ad-hominem attack and completely miss the mark. A+ for effort though.
    I didn't call you bad, you did. I called you "stuck" based on you saying you only had access to limited places to get Myth stones.

    If you have your relic +1, then why are you worried about spending so much time in Amdapor? You can cut that time significantly with the tomes you will get in CoB.

    With your Relic +1, 6-8 minute Garuda as Neasa mentioned would be much more interesting then sitting in Queue for 30 minutes and then 40 minutes of AK, and get you around 150% the Myth in the same amount of time. Your argument doesn't make sense with your claim of relic+1 (you didn't buy your way to it did you?), but I'm not calling you a liar.

    If you don't prefer the challange, that's fine. However, saying there isn't content there isn't true. You just don't want to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    It's not narrow-minded at all, I killed garuda about 20 times today just because Ampador keep isn't working properly. It's not exactly fun. Neither is farming a story instance for hours to get items(Not that I need darklight, I've already done 100+ Ampador runs - goodgamelol).

    It's pretty sad that you have to keep coming up with excuses for square launching their game with only 1 relevant level 50 4-man dungeon.
    It's working properly, there's just too many people like you trying to spam it all at once. If it wasn't working properly, people wouldn't be doing it. And really, a fun fight like Garuda with possible bonuses is less fun than running the same tedious dungeon over and over again? At best, you could say they're equal in terms of not being fun.

    Er, what were my "excuses" exactly? I was educating you. :\ I'm sorry that it failed to stick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Astralis View Post
    I hate how se is making their players wait for an endgame content wherein we pay to play. Sucks to see us being rip off and cant do anything.
    Yes, it's so terrible SE is forcing you to play. Go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neasa View Post
    It's working properly, there's just too many people like you trying to spam it all at once. If it wasn't working properly, people wouldn't be doing it. And really, a fun fight like Garuda with possible bonuses is less fun than running the same tedious dungeon over and over again? At best, you could say they're equal in terms of not being fun.

    Er, what were my "excuses" exactly? I was educating you. :\ I'm sorry that it failed to stick.
    Trying to "spam" it? You mean trying to run the dungeon? My apologies, I thought that was what it was for.

    How exactly are you educating me? All you're attempting(poorly) to do is justify the lack of end-game content and the appalling service. "It's working properly there's just too many people trying to spam it all at once". That sentence in its-self is the definition of a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    Trying to "spam" it? You mean trying to run the dungeon? My apologies, I thought that was what it was for.

    How exactly are you educating me? All you're attempting(poorly) to do is justify the lack of end-game content and the appalling service. "It's working properly there's just too many people trying to spam it all at once". That sentence in its-self is the definition of a joke.
    Yes, spam it. Instead of doing something else equally (Or more) rewarding. You're just one of those players who can't think for themselves and has to run what everyone else is, yet has the nerve to whine about it.

    I'm not, as I already said - It didn't stick. Try to keep up.
    So, if you go to an amusement park and the line is too long, do you say it's "not working"? There are other rides that are just as enjoyable.
    And... Oi, no, that's not "the definition of a joke." Your understanding of this language isn't much better than your grasp of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neasa View Post
    Yes, spam it. Instead of doing something else equally (Or more) rewarding. You're just one of those players who can't think for themselves and has to run what everyone else is, yet has the nerve to whine about it.

    I'm not, as I already said - It didn't stick. Try to keep up.
    So, if you go to an amusement park and the line is too long, do you say it's "not working"? There are other rides that are just as enjoyable.
    And... Oi, no, that's not "the definition of a joke." Your understanding of this language isn't much better than your grasp of the game.
    This game isn't an amusement park, your analogy is stupid.

    Other instances don't have a wait because Square have balanced their servers based on a hard limit per dungeon instead of assigning them based on demand. No other game makes you wait in the amusement park line to play with friends.

    I can think for my self, I enjoy doing 4-man dungeons, why should I have to go run garuda for 7 mythology or titan for 10 mythology 30 times to hit the cap. It's not a valid reason for ampador keep being in the state it is.

    If you have your relic +1, then why are you worried about spending so much time in Amdapor? You can cut that time significantly with the tomes you will get in CoB
    Because I enjoy playing with my casual friends and I enjoy 4-man content? Why does everything have to be boiled down to a virtual currency?

    People want more dungeons on the tier of AK and they want AK to actually work when they come home from work. The situation is absolutely square's fault.
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    Last edited by Valsh; 09-24-2013 at 11:41 AM.