Remove the 'noob in your party' warning

[Crica]

If the tank was really that retard, I'd rather not wasting my time running with him anyways. If the message weren't there, no one gonna know if they need to guide the newbie until after some wipes, and the tank would still leave.

no one needs to guide new players anyway - no one was guided when the game went live and did just fine - when ppl are new, LET THEM PLAY AND EXPERIENCE THE GAME JUST LIKE YOU DID unless they ASK FOR HELP - if you dont have patience to play with new ppl, then joining a random DF group is setting yourself up for failure, since you ALWAYS have a chance to be grouped with NEW PLAYERS...

[Hed]

I go through all the trouble of explaining fights and will continue to do so up through 50. I like to help people understand and as long as they're trying I don't mind wiping. Fortunately I also have a dedicated healer who is just as adamant about clearing content and explaining fights.

I even go through the trouble of explaining how to tank, to tanks who don't know how. However my most recent experience was not so great as the tank didn't know anything about enmity or how to generate it. They also didn't even try what I was telling them and continued to wipe the party time and again. I left. If that makes me an Elitist jerk then so be it.


Sometimes I think it's the fault of SE. Granted most people may read the text through the quests while leveling up and understand the fact that they are there to protect the party and mitigate damage as much as possible but the fights through the story line do not convey it very clearly as you rarely have to actually tank anything. Just stand back and let the npc's take all the damage while spamming ws'.

[Breladine]

Being new to a dungeon doesn't mean you are automatically a clueless player. I've seen "new-to-dungeon" people come into a party and know exactly how to perform their job correctly, which entirely makes up for their lack of experience in the dungeon as they will pick up and adapt to the environment with only a little prompting on less-obvious things from the group.

People have to stop judging books by covers, and also learn to be more involved with the community by assisting other players -- this makes for a better community overall.

[Atrious]

Wait, what message!? dafuq?

[Nymri]

wouldn't it solve all this trouble if at level 50 dungeons a new player awarded a boost to tombstones and gil instead of the exp that no-one can use. A tank may leave if they're going to lose out on tombstones/hr, but the same ones will probably happily stay for a boost to it. Players should be rewarded for helping out newer players. If SE is against this, another one they could try is that tombstones received in the dungeon don't count towards the weekly cap. We'd never see a party die due to a new player, we might even see FC's advertising to take new players though content to show them the ropes for that bonus/tombstones above cap.

[Breladine]

Wait, what message!? dafuq?

It sends a message to the entire group, popped up on the screen, that an experience bonus will be awarded as one or more members have never cleared the dungeon before.

[Crica]

It sends a message to the entire group, popped up on the screen, that an experience bonus will be awarded as one or more members have never cleared the dungeon before.

only if done "swiftly"....

because we ALL know that NEW players do everything SWIFTLY, right?

le sigh...

[EdwinLi]

speaking of newbie rewards for helping newbies.

Why don't they reward people with other things like 5 mythology tomes for each new player to the HM Primal.

A experienced player can get 35 mythology tome for helping 7 new players complete a HM primal

[Crica]

speaking of newbie rewards for helping newbies.

Why don't they reward people with other things like 5 mythology tomes for each new player to the HM Primal.

A experienced player can get 35 mythology tome for helping 7 new players complete a HM primal

ok, first of all dungeons already reward players for COMPLETING the runs...

if nerdragers are not sticking around to get the COMPLETION rewards, why do you ppl think they would stick around to get NEWBIE HELPER rewards?

secondly, i wonder how many of those rageing nerds whom leave after ONE wipe in a dungeon buy single player games and rage-quit them because they failed ONE time?

lol... i giggle when i think they do this!

[Supersomething]

I like having the indicator because a lot of the time people will not say so themselves. As a tank I couldn't care less if you're new or pro at a dungeon. I am more than happy to explain things and get stuff done correctly and quickly.

Considering that most bosses consist of the same basic strategy; don't stand in crap, kill adds... It should be a non issue for most people.