Remove the 'noob in your party' warning

[Blaste]

Um just cause they get the first time message doesn't mean they are unfamiliar with the dungeon, I dunno bout anyone else but Ive youtubed quite a few dungeons on my work break so I get the general gist of things, even friends said to do a bit of research into the dungeons and bosses to avoid headaches. But hey if people want to have a noob freakout then let'em.

[Lucroarna]

Why do you care so much? 1 DPS left and you jump to the forums?

[Balaur]

I know why you did it, it was a good idea, but as is clear from the numerous threads here and elsewhere this is being abused by many jerks, usually tanks, and is rapidly making this game a game for the elitist jerks only.

This needs to go.

Level 50 dungeons and "raids" do not give this warning, as the only reason it pops up is that there is an experience bonus for running with someone new. Incidentally, the pejorative use of "noob" in your post can come across, and may be intended to be, as offensive. Being new to content doesn't carry with it the stigma that the term also incorporates, that of idiocy. Everyone, even the most skilled -- even YOU -- would be a "noob" to any content you'd never set foot in. Even your first Sastasha run, YOU WERE A NOOB.

[AsakuraVN]

If the tank was really that retard, I'd rather not wasting my time running with him anyways. If the message weren't there, no one gonna know if they need to guide the newbie until after some wipes, and the tank would still leave.

[Crica]

If the tank was really that retard, I'd rather not wasting my time running with him anyways. If the message weren't there, no one gonna know if they need to guide the newbie until after some wipes, and the tank would still leave.

no one needs to guide new players anyway - no one was guided when the game went live and did just fine - when ppl are new, LET THEM PLAY AND EXPERIENCE THE GAME JUST LIKE YOU DID unless they ASK FOR HELP - if you dont have patience to play with new ppl, then joining a random DF group is setting yourself up for failure, since you ALWAYS have a chance to be grouped with NEW PLAYERS...

[Duelle]

Penalty for leaving within the first 10 minutes of a dungeon should be steeper.

Granted, while I am thankful for their patience my first AK group wasn't exactly cooperative about it. They pretty much did whatever they wanted with the trash mobs (the two DPS and healer were in full darklight and ifrit/garuda weapons, I was a tank in full AF and a lv44 sword >.>;;;; ), explained the boss mechanics to me and kinda went from there. I just wish more people were like that instead of leaving just because you have people that don't know the instance.

[Hed]

I go through all the trouble of explaining fights and will continue to do so up through 50. I like to help people understand and as long as they're trying I don't mind wiping. Fortunately I also have a dedicated healer who is just as adamant about clearing content and explaining fights.

I even go through the trouble of explaining how to tank, to tanks who don't know how. However my most recent experience was not so great as the tank didn't know anything about enmity or how to generate it. They also didn't even try what I was telling them and continued to wipe the party time and again. I left. If that makes me an Elitist jerk then so be it.


Sometimes I think it's the fault of SE. Granted most people may read the text through the quests while leveling up and understand the fact that they are there to protect the party and mitigate damage as much as possible but the fights through the story line do not convey it very clearly as you rarely have to actually tank anything. Just stand back and let the npc's take all the damage while spamming ws'.

[Felis]

Sometimes I think it's the fault of SE. Granted most people may read the text through the quests while leveling up and understand the fact that they are there to protect the party and mitigate damage as much as possible but the fights through the story line do not convey it very clearly as you rarely have to actually tank anything. Just stand back and let the npc's take all the damage while spamming ws'.

There are some quest battles that fail if a specific NPC die

[Breladine]

Being new to a dungeon doesn't mean you are automatically a clueless player. I've seen "new-to-dungeon" people come into a party and know exactly how to perform their job correctly, which entirely makes up for their lack of experience in the dungeon as they will pick up and adapt to the environment with only a little prompting on less-obvious things from the group.

People have to stop judging books by covers, and also learn to be more involved with the community by assisting other players -- this makes for a better community overall.

[Atrious]

Wait, what message!? dafuq?