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  1. #1
    Player
    Kraggy's Avatar
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    Kerin Kor
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90

    Remove the 'noob in your party' warning

    I know why you did it, it was a good idea, but as is clear from the numerous threads here and elsewhere this is being abused by many jerks, usually tanks, and is rapidly making this game a game for the elitist jerks only.

    This needs to go.
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  2. #2
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    Tareel's Avatar
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    Character
    Istade Solari
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 45
    I'm not sure I agree or disagree. I really like the bonus while leveling but I hate to hear that the notice is being used for evil.
    :/
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  3. #3
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    joshsecret's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Pep Per
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    i agree. i have seen too many tanks splitting because of that message. what sucks is they get a 15 min time out while DDs get to cross their fingers hoping someone will show or they will have a 30-45 min penalty.
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  4. #4
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    Character
    Odsarzol Que
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    It should stay, it was never a problem for the first few weeks - Now that people are farming dungeons for vanity gear and tomes it's a problem - That's not a problem with the message, it's a problem with the playerbase. We can't start removing perfectly fine features to coddle elitist players.
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  5. #5
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    I have never see anybody quit because of the first time bonus.
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    Tsunenori's Avatar
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    Character
    Shima Kyaro
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I disagree. The community as a whole is what decides whether or not it tolerates that kind of toxic behavior, not the tools available to it. When that message appears that's when I know it's time to prepare explanations of bosses and critical mechanics, and it's a good opportunity for me to try to get some discussion going in the group. "Hey there! For whoever is new, please speak up if you'd like to know more about what to expect in this dungeon! I promise I won't bite!"

    Low level or high level, it's never failed me and I feel like that message takes some of the pressure off of announcing that you're new to a place, because the game already lets people know for you. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I feel about it. It's really unfortunate that people out there tend to forget that they, too, were once new and someone had to help them along as well.

    Edit: It's really sad that I have to say that last sentence less than a month after official launch. That's kind of messed up.
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  7. #7
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    Lexxuk's Avatar
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    Bastok
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    Character
    Wildest Thing
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    In defence of tanks (I am one after all, except when I'm not, in which case I'm a hooker) if I see that sign there then I know I have to explain the dungeon layout, any moves from the boss, let's take Stone Vigil.

    New player message you explain about giant dragon coming down and making Lalakebob so don't fight there else you'll burn!
    First boss, when it runs, stand behind it, it'll special, turn then special again so avoid it.
    Then you talk them through what is ahead in the rest of the dungeon.

    When I was going through AK the first time I had an annoying healer who was about as helpful as a chocolate fire guard, I didn't know which mobs to tag in which order, they were less than helpful so I buggered off. 2nd time with a group of JP players, the DRG marked the order, talked through boss fights (where to stand) the wall fight (where to stand, where not to stand etc.) and my first proper run was a win and a win for me as I now know the order for when I go through with friends.
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  8. #8
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    Blazn's Avatar
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    limsa... FUK that place
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    Character
    Blazn Pyro
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Some don't mind teaching first timers, but some don't or don't have time to teach the dungeon at that moment and that notice says hey guys don't go speed running cause someone is new. If it's removed then we need a speed run / no first timer option for the DF
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  9. #9
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    Ryihito's Avatar
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    Character
    Ryihito Adonis
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    My first time in AK in Bard AF, the tank was really nice to me.

    Before every boss fight, he explained the mechanics and made sure I was alright with it, and everyone else waited patiently as I read the explanation. He also told everyone else to take it slow and not use Limit Break so I would know how the fight really is and so I know how to adapt to it.

    When we wiped on the bosses, he told me that was the dangers of these bosses, and that next time he and everyone else would be playing seriously. The bosses were so easy after that.

    His name was Tic Tac. A great guy. I wish more players were like him.
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  10. #10
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    Zaiken's Avatar
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    Character
    Celestia Raine
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I have never see anybody quit because of the first time bonus.
    They do stay for the bonus, it is correct no one want to leave for that. But when you they reach 50 and grind for Tombs, or for drop in Level 50 Dungeon that message mean they leave and reque because they don't want to dealt with noobs.
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