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  1. #11
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    bwalker36's Avatar
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    Mazo Bazo
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I fully agree their needs to be another way to get myth tomes. Only ak is silly. If you get a good Garuda group it is not that bad, but I can only fight her so many times before I want to claw my eyes out. I try and do or two AK runs a night so I don't have to do them all in a row but it is bad that its the only place for real myth.
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  2. #12
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    Xell Boat
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    Keep in mind you can still get myth tomes from Coil. You get 50 per turn, at least on 1,2,4, and probably(or even more than 50?) 5. That's half the cap right there. That leaves only 4 AK runs for groups that can clear through turn 4.
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  3. #13
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    I like how you just clipped out a minor comment from the thread rather than focus on the main portion (my original post). Sounds to me like you are the troll.
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  4. #14
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    Coralyn Myr
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    Dungeons like Stone Vigil for levels 41 and above yield tomes of philosophy so why are you saying only two dungeons? This game has alot of content but everyone just focuses on ignoring anything that doesn't yield them something other than the best. (I had to wait almost two hours for a group with Haukke, Brayflox, Qarn, and Cutter selected.

    EDIT: What's the deal with people expecting to get the best item very easily? Endgame content wasn't meant to be handed to them on a silver platter just because they put in some time which is why there was the limit on it.
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    Last edited by MLew0032; 09-24-2013 at 07:20 AM.

  5. #15
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcw005 View Post
    Praetorium is also much more difficult than CM. You can have a DF group with a couple terrible players and never run into any problems in CM. Ultima Weapon, however, is a non-trivial fight.
    If you're running with a pre-made group Praetorium is probably the better choice, we can full clear it in around 23 mins. I'll agree CM is easier for DF groups, but if you're just farming tomes you shouldn't be using the DF anyway.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Spy View Post
    I like how you just clipped out a minor comment from the thread rather than focus on the main portion (my original post). Sounds to me like you are the troll.
    I assume you're talking to me? I was just replying to the person above me. I don't see how that's troll in any way..
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  7. #17
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    Misaka Kitsunagi
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcw005 View Post
    Praetorium is also much more difficult than CM. You can have a DF group with a couple terrible players and never run into any problems in CM. Ultima Weapon, however, is a non-trivial fight.

    My FC can do Prea in around 24 minutes, as opposed to 30~ for CM. There are plenty of speedrun strats, you need to search for them/
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  8. #18
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    Nala Valsharess
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MLew0032 View Post
    Dungeons like Stone Vigil for levels 41 and above yield tomes of philosophy so why are you saying only two dungeons? This game has alot of content but everyone just focuses on ignoring anything that doesn't yield them something other than the best. (I had to wait almost two hours for a group with Haukke, Brayflox, Qarn, and Cutter selected.

    EDIT: What's the deal with people expecting to get the best item very easily? Endgame content wasn't meant to be handed to them on a silver platter just because they put in some time which is why there was the limit on it.
    People want more than AK to do as an end-game 4 man dungeon. It's not an unreasonable request, I'm currently upto maybe 100 AK runs. If I want to play my level capped monk with friends it's virtually the only option. Wanderer's palace is a "tier" below AK, Coil is a co-ordinated event and Primals are designed so that they're ran once(ideally).


    It is absolutely square's fault and more people are cottoning on to this as they spend time at level 50.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xell View Post
    I assume you're talking to me? I was just replying to the person above me. I don't see how that's troll in any way..
    No. The thread has been moderated. Someone else
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  10. #20
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    Veurr Vonhealinsmiten
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I'm confused you can do Praetorium,Castrum,Wanderers and AK for philo. Maybe not efficiently in DF but if all you care about is variety then you have 4 options. Coil and AK both drop Myth, Coil drops ilevel 90 gear. Which at least for WHM and SCH has much better stat distribuition than the AF2.

    Are people just trying to beat the game without forming a static party? Because you'll go crazy.

    (edited for phone post errors)
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    Last edited by Veurr; 09-25-2013 at 11:47 AM.

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