I didn't ask for a lesson on playing the game, or extending the timer. I'm not a moron I know we shouldn't run out of time, that wasn't my point. We had a horrible mnk kept getting us killed not attacking my marked target, taxing the whm mana etc. our group is fully up to snuff gear wise and skill wise, we mostly did it with the 3 of us, so you want to talk about skill? you try Stone vigil with a blm pld and whm only, we did a bang up job and still almost won. I'm getting tired of everyone thinking they know best an tell other groups they are not skilled enough to play when they have NO IDEA what they are talking about. So IMO you suck and should quit because you have no skill, there, how do you like them apples?

My point was this seems like a game flaw regardless of your opinion. Before you start handing out advice to someone about a situation you have no idea about, you might want to READ the OP and think twice.