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  1. #71
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    Kitru's Avatar
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiaris View Post
    I'm still waiting to see how WAR is actually harder to play then a PLD.
    Just because you find both to be easy to play does not mean that one is not explicitly harder to play. PLD has a single combo that it has to bother with and barely has to know anything about fights in order to tank effectively. A WAR has 2 combos and a much more complex resource game (Wrath is a resource, remember) along with more buffs and effects that have to be maintained. Arguing that PLD is anything but the most simple class in the game is being incredibly disingenuous.
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  2. #72
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    Hachiko's Avatar
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    Shaenrael Calgarawyn
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    Lamia
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiaris View Post
    I'm still waiting to see how WAR is actually harder to play then a PLD.

    btw. I have both at 50. Relic on my WAR, working on PLD relic. So far.. WAR is no harder to play then a PLD.. its actually easier due to overpower vs Multi Mobs.
    PLD: 1 combo to use, 2 off GCD attack skills which can be macroed into basic moves, 1 DPS cooldown that has no "downside" or conditional usage, Pre-Emptive mitigation skills

    WAR: 2 combos to rely on with a variable rotation, A DoT that trades off Enmity for DPS, 2 DPS cooldowns which have significant downsides and extremely conditional usage, An alternative Resource system to monitor (wrath stacks), Reactive mitigation.

    It's not THAT hard, but it's significantly more taxing than PLD. As PLD the only thing you have to worry about is what the boss is going to do next, and if you can put up a defensive cooldown for that in time you're golden. As a WAR you have much more to monitor. You have 1 - 2 debuffs, you have to time your rotations correctly for optimal utility, damage, and enmity (BB -> BB -> SE -> BB -> FR -> SE -> BB -> BB -> SE -> FR -> BB -> SE etc. for Dmg). You have to decide whether or not to hold your Berserk for Inner Beast, or to use it for DPS knowing that if you take a big hit, i.e. Mountain Buster, during pacification your primary mitigation skill will be unavailable.

    There are probably other things, but it seems silly to claim that WAR doesn't require more attentive play at the very least. To play a WAR properly takes significantly more cognitive effort than a PLD. The problem is that what is "gained" from this additional effort is simply being less effective.
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    Last edited by Hachiko; 09-26-2013 at 07:37 AM.

  3. #73
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    hola's Avatar
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    Hola Roxanne
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    Aegis
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    warrior need a very long foreplay
    while on the other hand, pld only need to take out their guns...
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  4. #74
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    Ragnar Sigurdsson
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 66
    i would like to see a developers video showing us the potential of warrior as Yoshi-P said in the TGS.
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  5. #75
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    MillieVanillie's Avatar
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    Millie Vanilli
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 43
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    i would like to see a developers video showing us the potential of warrior as Yoshi-P said in the TGS.
    Christ Almighty this. Apparently the lot of us are doing something wrong. Yoshi-P's "Ya'll doing it wrong broskis. Ya gots to do some research!" (not exact quote) wasn't exactly looked on too keenly to us WARs. Hell ain't none of us wanna trump our Paladin brothers, we just wanna be more effective in battle. Nothing wrong with that I say. I just need some sorta nudge in the right direction because I see alot of potential in this class and I don't want it to be shirked off. Hell I don't wanna drop it for my PUG...even though I enjoy giving monsters the ol' Fist of the North Star treatment. And mining...while singing a certain Neil Diamond song.

    Anyways, I just want this put to rest. Tired of this whole Warrior vs Paladin fight. It's stupid and dumb. Its...stumb? Yea hell let's roll with that at 4am after a 2nd glass of American Turkey whiskey.
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  6. #76
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    Big Larsen
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    i would like to see a developers video showing us the potential of warrior as Yoshi-P said in the TGS.
    There's no such thing. Either the language barrier mangled his comment or the developers are just clueless. I've frankly never seen anything this insulting in a dev to player context before. Insinuating that every warrior player in the world is just bad at the game when the class is so obviously underpowered is just a declaration of both incompetence and assholery.
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    Last edited by Wangstrong; 09-26-2013 at 08:34 PM.

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