So i finished my PLD... After my WAR

[Ramsey]

DEX is not useless from a tanking standpoint, it's just not worth taking instead of vitality. When you can get it in addition to vitality it's nice. It's much better for Paladin than it is for Warrior though, because it also increases block. On a Paladin 15 dex = roughly 2% mitigation. Parry has more raw contribution to parry than DEX though, so if you want to parry more often, you just want raw parry.

For a Paladin though, as of right now DEX > Parry, this is why crafted accessories like gryphonskin are much better than rose gold accessories or darklight, because they have an entire extra stat because the itemization is made to be useful for both bards and dragoons/monks, meaning it has STR, DEX, 2 secondary stats, and can still be slotted with as much VIT as darklight/rose gold.

[hola]

DEX is not useless from a tanking standpoint, it's just not worth taking instead of vitality. When you can get it in addition to vitality it's nice. It's much better for Paladin than it is for Warrior though, because it also increases block. On a Paladin 15 dex = roughly 2% mitigation. Parry has more raw contribution to parry than DEX though, so if you want to parry more often, you just want raw parry.

For a Paladin though, as of right now DEX > Parry, this is why crafted accessories like gryphonskin are much better than rose gold accessories or darklight, because they have an entire extra stat because the itemization is made to be useful for both bards and dragoons/monks, meaning it has STR, DEX, 2 secondary stats, and can still be slotted with as much VIT as darklight/rose gold.

dex may not be a useless attribute comparing to int, mnd, piety.

but it is useless comparing to vit str.

[Ramsey]

dex may not be a useless attribute comparing to int, mnd, piety.

but it is useless comparing to vit str.

Not quite that useless, in fact, at Lv50, iLvl70 crafted accessories are the best in the game for tanks pre-coil drops, due to the itemization having STR, DEX and 2 secondary stats, since you can slot it with VIT and get a much better item than the equivalent darklight gear. Additionally, after adding enough ACC to hit the Coil cap, DEX is the best stat to socket. In a crafted set you can easily get over +100 DEX, which is over 13% additional mitigation on PLD. It's not as stellar on WAR though unfortunately.

[Ruminate]

Not quite that useless, in fact, at Lv50, iLvl70 crafted accessories are the best in the game for tanks pre-coil drops, due to the itemization having STR, DEX and 2 secondary stats, since you can slot it with VIT and get a much better item than the equivalent darklight gear. Additionally, after adding enough ACC to hit the Coil cap, DEX is the best stat to socket. In a crafted set you can easily get over +100 DEX, which is over 13% additional mitigation on PLD. It's not as stellar on WAR though unfortunately.

This is an example of why it is the PLD, not the WAR, that scales better with gear.

[Kommunist]

Rerolled PLD, the difference is OBVIOUS. Some people, stop claiming its 'balanced'.

[Faction]

Keep in mind that if gear ever actually has materia slots in it, you will probably have to slot dex if you want extra avoidance because of str/vit cap. So it's not entirely useless, just useless in comparison.

[Nailkita]

A note for the sad warriors out there, though he sadly left before demon wall (think he was after something from the first chest cause he left after he opened it) I was experimenting on a pug warrior for different ways of healing. I actually found that by using stoneskin, and regen I hardly had to heal the warrior and had no issues keeping my mana under control, it did become problematic when there was damage on others so I wasn't able to attend to my stoneskin as much, but I think that's part of the learning curve.

While this will take more intensive testing, it may be that while warriors need a little bit of fixing, it's more on the healers to adapt to the type of damage they take. I have no issues healing even bad warriors with my scholar since I'm mentally in a preemptive healing mode. While on WHM I'm in reactive healing mode, which is not very safe way to heal with spikey tanks.

[Kiaris]

I'm still waiting to see how WAR is actually harder to play then a PLD.

btw. I have both at 50. Relic on my WAR, working on PLD relic. So far.. WAR is no harder to play then a PLD.. its actually easier due to overpower vs Multi Mobs.

[Faction]

I'm still waiting to see how WAR is actually harder to play then a PLD.

btw. I have both at 50. Relic on my WAR, working on PLD relic. So far.. WAR is no harder to play then a PLD.. its actually easier due to overpower vs Multi Mobs.

Oh yeah, it's so hard to mash flash over overpower. Poor babby.

This is an MMORPG with a 2.5 second gcd and no real character customization, every class is easy.

[Rios-Drakoon]

I'm still waiting to see how WAR is actually harder to play then a PLD.

btw. I have both at 50. Relic on my WAR, working on PLD relic. So far.. WAR is no harder to play then a PLD.. its actually easier due to overpower vs Multi Mobs.

Warrior is not harder to Play, ist just harder to heal, compared with Paladin.